Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact general-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list general@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 23637 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2000 14:54:54 -0000 Received: from mailhub1.almaden.ibm.com (198.4.83.44) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 10 Jul 2000 14:54:54 -0000 Received: from sun1.cupertino.ibm.com (sun1.cupertino.ibm.com [9.6.22.48]) by mailhub1.almaden.ibm.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA28768 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:50:47 -0700 Received: from us.ibm.com (maki.cupertino.ibm.com [9.6.22.89]) by sun1.cupertino.ibm.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id HAA09082 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3969E3C6.7EE260DB@us.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:55:02 -0700 From: Arnaud Le Hors Organization: IBM X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: [spinnaker] Announce References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alright, I see many people went completely off tracks here. So, let me get a few things straight. The problem is not about Sun vs IBM. It is not about corporate vs individuals. Not about creating a new project. Not about working on week-ends. Not about questioning the current goals or implementation. The problem is about making decision on your own. Not communicating. Not consulting others in the project. Simply from a practical point of view, James way of starting this off was plain wrong. The best way to get people to buy into a decision is to let them take part of the decision process. On the other hand pissing off those that are most comitted to the project is certainly not the best way to get them to help in the new project. Just a fact. -- Arnaud Le Hors - IBM Cupertino, XML Technology Group