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From Stefano Mazzocchi <stef...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [spinnaker] Announce
Date Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:56:53 GMT
Arnaud Le Hors wrote:
> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> >
> > This is the problem: you guys work in the same building.
> >
> > When Pier and I worked on JServ 1.0 we lived on the phone and the
> > community didn't know _why_ we were doing things. It made them feel very
> > bad and slowed down the community by order of magnitudes.
> >
> > Here, you are doing the same mistake.
> >
> > A single two line email like: hey, look a the new branch and comment our
> > ideas on a Xerces next generation.
> >
> > That's it, simple enoung, everybody would be happy.
> Yes, we've had "internal" discussions. Hell, we work next to each other,
> we have lunch together, are we suppose to only talk about what the
> weather is like?? But our discussions aren't more internal than James'
> discussions with Ted or the ones he said he had with the XML team at
> Sun.
> This said, I agree with you, we've failed to keep the list posted. I
> believe the only reason is that we've always felt like we were the only
> ones to care. We should have posted to the list anyway, just to prevent
> what's going on. Well, we can't rewrite history...

You are not only one who care, so stop this and move forward.
> > Damn, people, the Sun and IBM Cupertino buildings are just a couple of
> > blocks away and I have to tell you from the other side of the planet how
> > to communicate?
> I've actually met with them at least once. And I must say that I got
> quite disappointed. We made many proposals on how to get them more
> involved. But they weren't responsive at all. All we got was the feeling
> that weren't really committed to this project and we had to keep doing
> all the work to keep this project moving. It looks like there are
> committed now. They've sent more messages in the last two days in the
> last year altogether! That's great! Let's use this new energy to make
> Xerces even better.

I heard the exact same things on the other side of the fence.

But the problem is not that, it's the fence itself!

Stefano Mazzocchi      One must still have chaos in oneself to be
                          able to give birth to a dancing star.
<stefano@apache.org>                             Friedrich Nietzsche
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