Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact general-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list general@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 6592 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2000 15:38:36 -0000 Received: from ausmail2.austin.ibm.com (192.35.232.11) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 25 Apr 2000 15:38:36 -0000 Received: from netmail1.austin.ibm.com (netmail1.austin.ibm.com [9.53.250.96]) by ausmail2.austin.ibm.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA70938 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:36:14 -0500 Received: from mailgate2.austin.ibm.com (mailgate2.austin.ibm.com [9.3.199.12]) by netmail1.austin.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA24088 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:38:35 -0500 Received: from netmail2.austin.ibm.com (netmail2.austin.ibm.com [9.53.250.97]) by mailgate2.austin.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08496 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:39:34 -0500 Received: from mailgate1.austin.ibm.com (am03.austin.ibm.com [9.3.199.18]) by netmail2.austin.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA25972 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:38:33 -0500 Received: from netmail.austin.ibm.com (netmail.austin.ibm.com [9.53.250.98]) by mailgate1.austin.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17480 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:33:08 -0500 Received: from mailgate2.austin.ibm.com (mailgate2.austin.ibm.com [9.3.199.12]) by netmail.austin.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA27428 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:38:32 -0500 Received: from netmail2.austin.ibm.com (netmail2.austin.ibm.com [9.53.250.97]) by mailgate2.austin.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA06768 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:39:32 -0500 Received: from mailgate1.austin.ibm.com (am03.austin.ibm.com [9.3.199.18]) by netmail2.austin.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA30342 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:38:31 -0500 Received: from netmail.austin.ibm.com (netmail.austin.ibm.com [9.53.250.98]) by mailgate1.austin.ibm.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17478 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:33:06 -0500 Received: from popmail.austin.ibm.com (popmail.austin.ibm.com [9.53.247.178]) by netmail.austin.ibm.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA30292; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:38:29 -0500 Received: from apache.org (socks2.almaden.ibm.com [9.1.40.50]) by popmail.austin.ibm.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7-client1.01) with ESMTP id KAA20996; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:38:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3905BC2B.547F2F1C@apache.org> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 08:39:23 -0700 From: Mike Pogue Organization: xml.apache.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@xml.apache.org CC: xerces-j-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: Proposal to checkin jaxp.jar References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Ummmm, I vote -1. The JAXP code was specifically taken *out* of the license-in agreement with Sun, because we couldn't get Sun to say that it was OK to redistribute it, without being bound by the JAXP spec license (which has some nasty parts). So, rather than hold up everything, we agreed to pull JAXP out of the license-in agreement, and work on it separately (which Duncan is doing). Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but this proposal (below) does not actually resolve the JAXP spec license issues, and we don't end up with anything more than we have with Pier's existing implementation (which already implements JAXP). I don't think we need TWO ambiguous JAXP implementations in the source code base (one ambiguous one is too many already! :-) Alternately, could you provide a pointer to the JAXP RI license (is it different from the current JAXP spec license?), so we can check to see whether it's different? If it allows for unlimited redistribution (with no prohibition on subsetting/supersetting), then it's a different license, (one that's more compatible with open source) and we should take a closer look at it! Mike Rajiv Mordani wrote: > > Hi All, > Till the spec license issue is solved I propose that we checkin > the jaxp.jar from the JAXP RI and use that. According to the license of > JAXP RI you can redistribute jaxp.jar (which btw just has the 6 classes > defined by JAXP and not the full parser. The parser is in a separate jar > file) and check it in and use Pier's implementation and integrate it into > the build process. This way people have access to JAXP in xerces. Once all > the licensing issues are solved we can revert to Pier's implementation of > the javax classes. Can we have a round of +1s for this. > > - Rajiv > > -- > :wq > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > In case of troubles, e-mail: webmaster@xml.apache.org > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@xml.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@xml.apache.org