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From Michael Glavassevich <mrgla...@ca.ibm.com>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4
Date Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:09:30 GMT
Hi Radu,

That is reassuring though I wonder if the source files in their current 
form can be included in an ASF project. As Jeremias mentioned, none of the 
source files have a license header on them.

Thanks.

Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org

"Radu Preotiuc-Pietro" <radup@bea.com> wrote on 03/30/2006 04:43:32 PM:

> Here's some info on this.
> 
> The XmlBeans team (esp Lawrence, with his Apache hat on ;-) ) have
> worked with BEA (represented by the BEA legal team) to clarify the
> licensing status of jsr173 APIs. The jar that we have made available at
> http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/xmlbeans/jars/jsr173_1.0_api_
> bundle.jar is totally legit, as provided by BEA, licensed under the
> Apache License 2.0 and with no modifications on our part. It is NOT
> something that we just downloaded, changed a few things and commited.
> It's also been oked by Cliff (with his legal affairs hat on), see this
> thread for details:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/xmlbeans-dev/200510.mbox/%3c113
> 0357486.13564.0.camel@knossos.elmet%3e
>
> There are two points that are worth mentioning:
> 1. Is this .jar available from anywhere else other than the Apache
> address above? Answer: not that I know of; BEA has said that they are
> interested in making it available for download in a more "public" place,
> but this has not happened yet, I guess it's just a lack of leadership on
> their part, but we'll keep pinging them
> 2. Why is another .jar still available at dev.java.net with the same
> classes in it and different license? Answer: because of BEA's agreement
> with Sun on the JCP, they can't modify what's already there AFAIK. Cliff
> probably knows exactly what are the rules regarding code that companies
> decided to make available under Apache license which was previously
> licensed under different terms.
> 
> So obviously each project has to decide for itself what to use and what
> not to use, but for XmlBeans we have taken the steps to ensure that what
> we use is completely within the legal constraints of the ASF.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Radu
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Glavassevich [mailto:mrglavas@ca.ibm.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:30 AM
> To: commons-dev@xml.apache.org
> Cc: dev@xmlbeans.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL]: Upgrade XML Commons External to JAXP 1.4
> 
> Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch> wrote on 03/29/2006 02:08:32
> AM:
> 
> > (cc'ing dev@xmlbeans.apache.org)
> > 
> > That's ok with me. The only thing bothering me is the XMLBeans' JAR 
> > file with the API sources. It does not contain any indication whether 
> > this is a clean-room reconstruction of the API sources based on the 
> > specification or if they have been taken from the java.net site and 
> > modified. The files there seem to be distributed under the CDDL [1] 
> > which is a Category B license (binary only). The sources at java.net 
> > [2] have Bea copyrights all over the place. Furthermore, I can't find 
> > the StAX API sources anywhere in XMLBeans' repository. The individual 
> > files in the API JAR do not contain the Apache license header as would
> 
> > be required by any source file published by the ASF (due to the 
> > current policy). The good thing on the other side is that Bea seems to
> 
> > be the driving force behind XMLBeans and could officially donate the 
> > API sources to the ASF for inclusion into XML Commons Externals. And 
> > Cliff is XMLBeans' PMC chair. :-) So, before the API sources can be 
> > included in XML Commons Externals a clarification will be necessary
> IMO.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> > [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp-
> > sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/license.txt?rev=1.
> > 1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> > [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/source/browse/jaxp-
> > sources/jaxp-api/src/javax/xml/stream/StreamFilter.java?rev=1.
> > 1&view=auto&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
> > 
> > On 29.03.2006 00:45:11 Michael Glavassevich wrote:
> > > Hi everyone,
> > > 
> > > The Xerces developers (myself included) have started planning for a 
> > > Xerces-J release which will add support for JAXP 1.4 [1][2]. JAXP 
> > > 1.4
> is a 
> > > minor update to JAXP 1.3; the largest technical change being the
> addition 
> > > of StAX (JSR 173) [3] and new Source/Result classes (see the 
> > > javax.xml.transform.stax package) which can be used with 
> > > transformers
> and 
> > > validators. I believe Apache Harmony will eventually require JAXP 
> > > 1.4
> to 
> > > complete an implementation of Java SE 6.0. Other Apache projects
> (Axis2, 
> > > XMLBeans, etc...) are already using StAX.
> > > 
> > > With the JAXP 1.4 specification nearing finalization I propose that
> the 
> > > main trunk of XML Commons External be upgraded to JAXP 1.4 and a
> branch be 
> > > created for maintenance of JAXP 1.3 (which is what is currently on 
> > > the
> 
> > > main trunk).
> > > 
> > > I noticed that a copy of the StAX API source is being distributed 
> > > with
> 
> > > XMLBeans here [4] (see jsr173_1.0_api_bundle.jar) and on Apache 
> > > mirror
> 
> > > sites. The source files contain Javadoc so it would be great if we
> could 
> > > use them. The README contained in the jar states that the source and
> 
> > > binary files are distributed under the Apache License 2.0, so it 
> > > would
> 
> > > appear to me that the source can be included [5] in XML Commons
> External. 
> > > What do folks think?
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > [1] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/spec/html/
> > > [2] https://jaxp-sources.dev.java.net/nonav/docs/api/
> > > [3] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=173
> > > [4] http://www.apache.org/dist/java-repository/xmlbeans/jars/
> > > [5] http://people.apache.org/~cliffs/3party.html#category-a
> > > 
> > > Michael Glavassevich
> > > XML Parser Development
> > > IBM Toronto Lab
> > > E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> > > E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jeremias Maerki
> 
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
> 
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