Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-repository-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 77307 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2006 21:34:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Dec 2006 21:34:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 80527 invoked by uid 500); 12 Dec 2006 21:34:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-repository-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 80410 invoked by uid 500); 12 Dec 2006 21:34:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact repository-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: repository@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list repository@apache.org Received: (qmail 80399 invoked by uid 99); 12 Dec 2006 21:34:11 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:34:11 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [203.59.1.196] (HELO mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au) (203.59.1.196) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:34:01 -0800 Received: from 203-158-57-144.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO [172.16.237.15]) ([203.158.57.144]) by mail-ihug.icp-qv1-irony2.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 13 Dec 2006 05:33:37 +0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAJ6ufkXLnjmQdGdsb2JhbAANjUcB X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,526,1157299200"; d="scan'208"; a="733947899:sNHT127189472" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <19e0530f0612121242j47b05c14j890d820f4a6afecd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8665FDE9-1FE4-452B-B112-E3256117EC64@apache.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Brett Porter Subject: Re: Making Policy decisions on artifacts and how they look. Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:33:31 +1100 To: repository@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Joshua, I think we'd all agree with these concerns, but the aim of 'repository-land' is to try and curb both of those behaviours. - Brett On 13/12/2006, at 8:28 AM, Joshua Slive wrote: > On 12/12/06, Steve Loughran wrote: >> On 12/12/06, Joshua Slive wrote: >> >> > >> > Having said that, I've always been rather freaked out by the >> goings-on >> > in repository-land. >> >> How so? > > 1. Total lack of control on what goes in and out. > > 2. Tying project builds to existence of specific internet resources -- > and even worse if they are apache.org resources. > > But I admit that I don't follow any of it very closely. What mainly > gets me is when some change on some server someplace causes people to > come screaming "you broke my build". Having changes on someone else's > server break builds of software on your computer just seems like way > too fragile of an ecosystem to me. > > Joshua.