Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-repository-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 58704 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2006 20:55:21 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Dec 2006 20:55:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 18825 invoked by uid 500); 12 Dec 2006 20:55:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-repository-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 18707 invoked by uid 500); 12 Dec 2006 20:55:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact repository-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: repository@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list repository@apache.org Received: (qmail 18696 invoked by uid 99); 12 Dec 2006 20:55:28 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:55:28 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of carlossg@gmail.com designates 66.249.92.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.249.92.175] (HELO ug-out-1314.google.com) (66.249.92.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:55:17 -0800 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 32so1631540ugm for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:54:56 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=bPd+v/6HFM75FBCqlhRnnYjYuUlvC+AmNacmyF1i0yXs0Enyn/YFX23kH/i8pkveRw72MFcsydWRmR93XAVK3DkMgDekoC+q2qZG1pycg+WmfQBywFd4NbTXneRccH9d23R/d9N4i2QnkAaTdiM8OBNuhMov5HLYj+UqJmarJg4= Received: by 10.82.105.13 with SMTP id d13mr1478buc.1165956896303; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:54:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.175.3 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:54:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <1a5b6c410612121254x21d4bafcw69f3beebf7878e18@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 21:54:56 +0100 From: "Carlos Sanchez" Sender: carlossg@gmail.com To: repository@apache.org, dims@apache.org Subject: Re: [repo] /www/people.apache.org/repo/m1-ibiblio-rsync-repository/ Cc: "Wendy Smoak" In-Reply-To: <19e0530f0612121235s2302789cl264cbc5dbafaf657@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20061211091504.18111.qmail@minotaur.apache.org> <9d4ec10b0612112017o300a0cctfadc2bb0acf817be@mail.gmail.com> <9d4ec10b0612112130m67719b0arfb73cb1968cdb176@mail.gmail.com> <9d4ec10b0612112204l3bc9fa3fh138ea2bcc1c9e2b4@mail.gmail.com> <1a5b6c410612120232x22eff7a0te31c712d0e87f8fe@mail.gmail.com> <19e0530f0612120601k3c8da1dbodfede2702491a8e4@mail.gmail.com> <1a5b6c410612121211y16ddbcf8mbde0df0346041192@mail.gmail.com> <19e0530f0612121235s2302789cl264cbc5dbafaf657@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8298e85e95a8d51d X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I'm not making any decision, that's why this thread started. I recall that there was at some point some agreement that it was going to be org.apache.PMCName, somebody can refresh my memory? I'm sorry I don't really know who to ask about this as it affects all projects in apache. On 12/12/06, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > Carlos, > > If it is an apache wide decision, then people should be consulted, > *you* can't make that decision. > > -- dims > > On 12/12/06, Carlos Sanchez wrote: > > I think it is an apache wide decision how to make groupids look like, > > not just ws PMC. > > > > What I'm gonna do next time there's doubts about anything in the repo > > is move it out of the way until they are cleared. > > > > On 12/12/06, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > > Carlos, Wendy, > > > > > > Am sorry. It's none of repository@'s business on how the group Id > > > should look like!!! It's upto the project and it's pmc. > > > > > > Please leave things the way they are. If you wish to influence the > > > decisions, please drop by general@ws and evangalize there. > > > > > > thanks, > > > dims > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Carlos Sanchez wrote: > > > > I think we are still in the timeframe for moving it, anybody disagree? > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Chamikara Jayalath wrote: > > > > > I understand your point. > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately Sadesha2 release was also done on Sunday. And dists etc are > > > > > already available in Apache dists and other mirrors. > > > > > > > > > > I would have certainly corrected the group id hd I know that such a > > > > > discussion occured here before but I guess its too late now :-( > > > > > > > > > > Chamikara > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/12/06, Wendy Smoak wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/11/06, Chamikara Jayalath wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually I was following the convention that was being followed by many > > > > > WS > > > > > > > projects. I.e. to have the package name in the group Id. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example Apache Axis2 project has the group Id ' org.apache.axis2' > > > > > and > > > > > > > Apache Axis has the group Id 'org.apache.axis'. Is there an reason to do > > > > > it > > > > > > > differently in this project ? > > > > > > > > > > > > The Maven convention is to use a domain name that you control, not > > > > > > (necessarily) the package name. (See: > > > > > > > > > > > http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-ibiblio-upload.html) > > > > > > > > > > > > In addition, within Apache we like to be able to easily identify the > > > > > > responsible PMC by looking at the groupId. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think we've talked about Axis and Axis2 here before. IMO, they also > > > > > > belong under org.apache.ws and should eventually be relocated. When > > > > > > there are existing releases, changing the groupId can cause some pain, > > > > > > so they're generally being allowed to stay for now. > > > > > > > > > > > > For new sub-projects within Apache, there's no reason to continue > > > > > > inventing new groupIds that don't correspond to top level projects. > > > > > > For this one, org.apache.ws.sandesha2 seems appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Carlos, any further thoughts on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Wendy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > I could give you my word as a Spaniard. > > > > No good. I've known too many Spaniards. > > > > -- The Princess Bride > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service Developers) > > > > > > > > > -- > > I could give you my word as a Spaniard. > > No good. I've known too many Spaniards. > > -- The Princess Bride > > > > > -- > Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service Developers) > -- I could give you my word as a Spaniard. No good. I've known too many Spaniards. -- The Princess Bride