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From Craig L Russell <Craig.Russ...@Sun.COM>
Subject Re: [repo] /www/people.apache.org/repo/m1-ibiblio-rsync-repository/
Date Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:08:43 GMT
I don't see that there is any reason for an Apache-wide decision  
unless two projects want to use the same groupId. And in that case,  
the PMC's can battle it out.

Otherwise, what's the problem?

Craig

On Dec 12, 2006, at 12:11 PM, Carlos Sanchez wrote:

> I think it is an apache wide decision how to make groupids look like,
> not just ws PMC.
>
> What I'm gonna do next time there's doubts about anything in the repo
> is move it out of the way until they are cleared.
>
> On 12/12/06, Davanum Srinivas <davanum@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Carlos, Wendy,
>>
>> Am sorry. It's none of repository@'s business on how the group Id
>> should look like!!! It's upto the project and it's pmc.
>>
>> Please leave things the way they are. If you wish to influence the
>> decisions, please drop by general@ws and evangalize there.
>>
>> thanks,
>> dims
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/06, Carlos Sanchez <carlos@apache.org> wrote:
>> > I think we are still in the timeframe for moving it, anybody  
>> disagree?
>> >
>> > On 12/12/06, Chamikara Jayalath <chamikaramj@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > I understand your point.
>> > >
>> > > Unfortunately Sadesha2 release was also done on Sunday. And  
>> dists etc are
>> > > already available in Apache dists and other mirrors.
>> > >
>> > > I would have certainly corrected the group id hd I know that  
>> such a
>> > > discussion occured here before but I guess its too late now :-(
>> > >
>> > > Chamikara
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 12/12/06, Wendy Smoak <wsmoak@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On 12/11/06, Chamikara Jayalath <chamikaramj@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Actually I was following the convention that was being  
>> followed by many
>> > > WS
>> > > > > projects. I.e. to have the package name in the group Id.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > For example Apache Axis2 project has the group Id '  
>> org.apache.axis2'
>> > > and
>> > > > > Apache Axis has the group Id 'org.apache.axis'. Is there  
>> an reason to do
>> > > it
>> > > > > differently in this project ?
>> > > >
>> > > > The Maven convention is to use a domain name that you  
>> control, not
>> > > > (necessarily) the package name.  (See:
>> > > >
>> > > http://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-ibiblio-upload.html)
>> > > >
>> > > > In addition, within Apache we like to be able to easily  
>> identify the
>> > > > responsible PMC by looking at the groupId.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think we've talked about Axis and Axis2 here before.  IMO,  
>> they also
>> > > > belong under org.apache.ws and should eventually be  
>> relocated.  When
>> > > > there are existing releases, changing the groupId can cause  
>> some pain,
>> > > > so they're generally being allowed to stay for now.
>> > > >
>> > > > For new sub-projects within Apache, there's no reason to  
>> continue
>> > > > inventing new groupIds that don't correspond to top level  
>> projects.
>> > > > For this one, org.apache.ws.sandesha2 seems appropriate.
>> > > >
>> > > > Carlos, any further thoughts on this?
>> > > >
>> > > > --
>> > > > Wendy
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > I could give you my word as a Spaniard.
>> > No good. I've known too many Spaniards.
>> >                              -- The Princess Bride
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Davanum Srinivas : http://www.wso2.net (Oxygen for Web Service  
>> Developers)
>>
>
>
> -- 
> I could give you my word as a Spaniard.
> No good. I've known too many Spaniards.
>                             -- The Princess Bride

Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!


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