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From SC Postmaster <Postmas...@SpinelliCreations.com>
Subject Re: Is possible to lunched Appache mirror in iran (fwd)
Date Wed, 31 May 2017 12:12:41 GMT
It's not a matter of "illegal" or "legal".  Instead, Iran is a hot-bed 
for terrorist activity.  US based companies and organizations tend to 
avoid dealing with these regions.  I'm not surprised Iran is on the 
ASF's banned-list.

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On 2017-05-31 02:28, Henk P. Penning wrote:
> Hi Ahamed Bauani,
> 
>   thanks for your contribution, but I don't think this mailing-list
>   is the right platform to discuss this further.
> 
>   Thanks all ; regards,
> 
>   Henk Penning
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------   _
> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta                 R Uithof HFG-406   _/ \_
> Faculty of Science, Utrecht University    T +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
> Budapestlaan 6, 3584CD Utrecht, NL        F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penning@uu.nl     \_/
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 00:00:57 +0200
> From: Ahamed Bauani <bauani@gmail.com>
> To: mirrors@apache.org
> Cc: Mirror Hostiran <Mirror@hostiran.com>, penning@uu.nl, 
> danielsh@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Is possible to lunched Appache mirror in iran
> 
> Hello Everyone; 
> Good Morning ( As per my local timezone) . 
> 
> Discussion regarding possibility of having an official Apache mirror 
> hosted on
> physically on Iran or a mirror administrate by person living/citizen of 
> Iran is
> really interesting. 
> 
> I want to appreciate reply from both Mr. Henk Penning and  Daniel 
> Shahaf for
> their concern about allowing mirror listed on official list when it 
> related to
> controversial country like Iran. I also think ASF (apache.org) is big 
> enough
> organization to not have any gray area just because of USA-government 
> "may"
> consider having Iran in official network of distributing public 
> software. If
> anyone become interested to host mirror on country like Iran ASF board 
> should
> really have clear decision about allowing them or to reject them as
> per jurisdiction's laws where foundation was incorporated. Don't forget 
> about
> the pressure from local government for the organization or person 
> taking
> initiative to host a mirror of US based organization. 
> 
> I am also not a lawyer or expertise on US law in general. But if 
> visitor from
> Iran can access and download data from ASF official site individually, 
> allowing
> someone from same network/country for having a mirror ( a local copy of
> repository in reality) shouldn't annoyed govt. Also as it is easy for 
> ASF board
> to remove listing at any time in case of possible difficulty, we expect 
> some
> positive responce on this issue. Please have some 2nd thought on this. 
> 
> 
> For the person asked about possibility of having apache mirror on Iran 
> ( Mirror
> Hostiran <Mirror@hostiran.com>): 
> 
> I really encourage you to go ahead with your plan for hosting Iranian 
> mirror of
> Apache repository even ASF don't listed your mirror as 'official one'. 
> As per my
> personal believe first target for any mirror maintainer to give local 
> community
> high speed access of mirrored content, second comes the goodwill & 
> other issue.
> I really don't know current status of your network for having access of 
> ASF
> official site without any problem. If your network user can visit 
> official site
> of ASF as like all around world, I will sagest you to prepare the 
> mirror with
> official tech and other guideline of ASF and keep serving your 
> local/nearest
> visitor like any other normal mirror on official list. ASF might not 
> give you
> official status for really complex scenario of political issue, 
> community living
> near you, at least inside your country will have real benefit from your 
> effort.
> As your effort is not extraordinary then other visitor of ASF official 
> site, you
> are not committing any crime with your mirror for sure. After that time 
> will say
> if your mirror can get some place on official mirror list. Even ASF 
> incorporated
> and operate under US law, we the big community of Apache foundation are 
> spread
> around every corner of our world. Who knows if any big amount of 
> community
> member start asking to give your mirror official status in near 
> future. 
> 
> 
> Thank you everyone for your effort. It is reality that we live on a 
> world where
> strange law, rules, culture divide us. But it is also true, we the 
> community
> supporting free software movement is trying to give equal rights for 
> every human
> who want freedom. 
> 
> Let's see where it goes; but first a mirror should pop-up from country 
> in
> question to have further development. 
> 
> 
> Have a nice day! 
> 
> Regards & Best Wishes
> 
> Noor Ahamed Bauani
> 
> 
> HP: +880-1818-BAUANI (Text Preferred) 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [ Sent from Mobile Device; Kindly Excuse Tyops.]
> 
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Henk P. Penning <penning@uu.nl> wrote:
>       On Sun, 28 May 2017, Ahamed Bauani wrote:
> 
>             Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 14:33:19 +0200
>             From: Ahamed Bauani <bauani@gmail.com>
>             To: mirrors@apache.org
>             Subject: Re: Is possible to lunched Appache mirror in
>             iran
> 
> 
>             Apache Foundation do not influence on any political
>             issue. As long as there is
>             no technical issue with mirrors and all requirement of
>             having an official mirror
>             are meet, everybody welcome to host apache official
>             mirror. 
> 
>             Same is for anyone living on Iran. 
> 
>             Welcome to the world of freedom.  
> 
>             Regards & Best Wishes
> 
>             Noor Ahamed Bauani
> 
> 
>       Hi Ahamed Bauani,
> 
>         The Board of the ASF (apache.org) orders me /not/
>         to add mirrors in Iran to the mirror-list.
> 
>         I think the Board is afraid that the USA-government /may/
>         think it is illegal to add mirrors in Iran to the list.
> 
>         It is very expensive to fight the USA-government
>         in court, even if you have done nothing wrong ;
>         so to be safe, it must be avoided.
> 
>         Regards,
> 
>         Henk Penning
> 
>       ------------------------------------------------------------   _
>       Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta                 R Uithof HFG-406   _/ 
> \_
>       Faculty of Science, Utrecht University    T +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ 
> \
>       Budapestlaan 6, 3584CD Utrecht, NL        F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ 
> \_/
>       http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penning@uu.nl     \_/

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