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From Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: openoffice at apache.org
Date Tue, 20 Mar 2012 16:52:38 GMT
Ah last year Oracle transferred its assets
in openoffice.org to Apache, which as a project

entered the Incubator and is progressing toward
graduation.  Apache has been hosting the entire
openoffice.org domain for several months now-

cutting an Apache release is thenext logical 

step in the progression.  WhileLibreOffice is a
well-known fork in the linuxworld, it has made
little inroads in gettingother platform's users
to adopt it.  That iswhy we expect this Apache
release to generate traffic similar in magnitude
to the original openoffice.org releases, as again
we own that domain and have picked up most of the
userbase as a result.

That is all I plan to say on this topic as
the rationale behind this situation has been
beaten to death elsewhere and is not topical
for the mirrors@ list.  Here we are trying to
determine whether our not there are technical
limitations that might prevent us from offering
Apache OpenOffice releases through our normal
mirroring system.

> From: The SC Postmaster <postmaster@spinellicreations.com>
>To: mirrors@apache.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:38 PM
>Subject: Re: openoffice at apache.org
>I just don't understand why --yet another-- open office distribution?
>Or am I wrong?  I am assuming "Apache Open Office" will be another
    spin of Open Office dot Org office suite.  It's already been forked
    to Libre Office, which has been adopted by Red Hat and Canonical as
    their defacto office suites, and it's gaining ground.  
>I'm not sure what happened, but somebody at Oracle pissed off the
    rest of the Linux / Open Source community, and now there's a pissing
    match going on... just trying to understand if Apache's distribution
    will be yet another fork / spin, or if it's a direct mirror of Open
    Office dot Org.  
>... which, if it is a direct mirror, then why even bother?  They
    already have their own mirror structure?
The SC Postmaster
"All your base are belong to us."
--------------------------------- postmaster@spinellicreations.com admin@spinellicreations.com
>On 03/20/2012 12:11 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: 
>That is likely if our mirrors can carry the
>>traffic ourselves. Keep in mind the timeframe
>>for the next OpenOffice release is perhaps
>>within the next 1-3 months depending on
>>resolution of remaining release-blocking issues.
>>> From: Manuel Delgado <manuel.delgado@ucr.ac.cr>
>>>To: mirrors@apache.org 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:36 AM
>>>Subject: Re: openoffice at apache.org
>>>No problem for mirrors.ucr.ac.cr (Costa Rica) 
>>>But I've a question, since we already are an OOo
                  mirror (http://mirrors.ucr.ac.cr/openoffice.org/),
                  will this be removed and completely migrated to
                  Apache's branch or will it need to be kept somehow?
>>>Manuel Delgado
>>>Usuario Linux #520940 
>>>Bach. Computación e Informática
>>>Universidad de Costa Rica
>>>On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Henk P. Penning <penning@uu.nl> wrote:
>>>Hi Apache Mirrors,
>>>> In june 2011 "openoffice" was established as an
                      ASF Project.
>>>> Since then, many parts of openoffice.org have moved to the
>>>> apache.org (ASF) infrastructure. It is now time to think
>>>> about releasing "Apache OpenOffice".
>>>> One of the options for distributing Apache
                      OpenOffice is to
>>>> put it on the apache mirrors, like all other
                      Apache projects.
>>>> Impact on mirrors :
>>>> -- Space : disk space would go from (currently
                      40GB) to 80-100 GB.
>>>> -- Bandwidth : will go up a lot ; maybe 100-500
                      times more.
>>>> We realise that this can be a problem for some
>>>> -- We think that disk-space isn't a big problem,
>>>>    but tell us if it is.
>>>> -- We think that bandwidth can be a problem
>>>>      ... except when you already have an openoffice.org mirror,
>>>>      or  when you already mirror lots of other
                      (big) projects.
>>>> If releasing "Apache OpenOffice" on Apache
                      mirrors is a problem
>>>> for you, please let us know.
>>>> -- Remember that nothing is decided yet ; at the
                      moment, we are
>>>>    investigating possibilities.
>>>> Thanks, regards,
>>>> Henk Penning -- apache.org infrastructure
>>>>Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta              R Uithof
                      WISK-412  _/ \_
>>>>Faculty of Science, Utrecht University T +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
>>>>Budapestlaan 6, 3584CD Utrecht, NL     F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
>>>>http://people.cs.uu.nl/henkp/          M penning@uu.nl     \_/
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