From legal-discuss-return-16571-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@apache.org Wed Sep 11 09:37:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [207.244.88.153]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 8949C18063F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 11:37:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 78636 invoked by uid 500); 11 Sep 2019 09:37:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 78626 invoked by uid 99); 11 Sep 2019 09:37:01 -0000 Received: from mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org (HELO mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.139) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:37:01 +0000 Received: from jira-he-de.apache.org (static.172.67.40.188.clients.your-server.de [188.40.67.172]) by mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id A237FE313A for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jira-he-de.apache.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by jira-he-de.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at jira-he-de.apache.org) with ESMTP id 180BC78058B for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 09:37:00 +0000 (UTC) From: "Zhankun Tang (Jira)" To: legal-discuss@apache.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [jira] [Comment Edited] (LEGAL-477) Can we use MariaDB java client LGPL-2.1 as Apache project dependency since apache license is in the FLOSS exception list? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-JIRA-FingerPrint: 30527f35849b9dde25b450d4833f0394 [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-477?page=3Dcom.atlassian.= jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=3D16927= 426#comment-16927426 ]=20 Zhankun Tang edited comment on LEGAL-477 at 9/11/19 9:36 AM: ------------------------------------------------------------- [~rvs], it's great to see you here. :) [~rvs], [~jmclean] Thanks for the explanation. Now one thing I'm pretty sure is that we cannot= put MariaDB connector in the "compile" scope in pom.xml and distribute it = as a submarine artifact. We should make it optional. The key point confusin= g me is what "optional" really means. In this case, does it mean we should at lease depend on another compatible = database connector like Derby or postgreSQL? =C2=A0 was (Author: tangzhankun): [~rvs], it's great to see you here. :) [~rvs], [~jmclean] Thanks for the explanation. Now one thing I'm pretty sure is that we cannot= put MariaDB connector in the "compile" scope in pom.xml and distribute it = whether it's a submarine artifact. We should make it optional. The key poin= t confusing me is what "optional" really means. In this case, does it mean we should at lease depend on another compatible = database connector like Derby or postgreSQL? If so, another question come up, let's say, the dependencies now consists o= f both postgreSQL and MariaDB connector as optional. But using postgreSQL w= ill have more bugs. Is this ok? The sentence: {code:java} "Will the majority of users want to use my product without adding the optio= nal components?"{code} is quite confusing and different from =C2=A0 "Will the *majority of users can use my product very well* without adding t= he optional components?". > Can we use MariaDB java client LGPL-2.1 as Apache project dependency sinc= e apache license is in the FLOSS exception list? > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------ > > Key: LEGAL-477 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-477 > Project: Legal Discuss > Issue Type: Question > Reporter: Zhankun Tang > Priority: Major > > Dear Apache Legal Affairs Committee, > The [submarine|https://hadoop.apache.org/submarine/]] project community n= ow has encountered a legal issue when we want to use the MariaDB java clien= t as a dependency and distributed it. > From=C2=A0LEGAL-462,=C2=A0it seems we cannot do this. But submarine is an= open-source project may not fit in this. So I filed this Jira to double-co= nfirm this. > =C2=A0 > From the license of [MariaDB java client|https://mariadb.com/kb/en/librar= y/licensing-faq/#distributing-an-application-with-a-mariadb-connectorclient= ]], and the [FLOSS exception details,=C2=A0|https://mariadb.com/kb/en/libra= ry/mariadb-license/#the-floss-exception]=C2=A0see the snippets below. > {code:java} > Free software/open source applications > If your application is Free software/open source and uses one of the lice= nses listed in the=C2=A0FLOSS exception, the GPL in the client library does= not affect your application. > {code} > {code:java} > =C2=A0 2. FLOSS License List > License name Version(s)/Copyright Date > Academic Free License 2.0 > Apache Software License 1.0/1.1/2.0 > Apple Public Source License 2.0 > {code} > It seems that LGPL-2.1 allows Apache project like Submarine to link this = MariaDB java client jar dependency and distribute with it, is my understand= ing correct? > BR, > Zhankun -- This message was sent by Atlassian Jira (v8.3.2#803003) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org