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[124.169.130.107]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f17sm3842340pgv.16.2019.06.21.18.29.24 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:29:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Justin Mclean Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 12.4 \(3445.104.11\)) Subject: Re: Podling releases and ASF policy Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2019 11:29:21 +1000 References: <88CF9C64-24A3-457C-89E2-22A020C70F75@classsoftware.com> <21105FB4-D49F-41B8-8D94-B54240CEA0FC@classsoftware.com> <4C13C829-9481-4124-B802-8598C39B420E@gmail.com> To: legal-discuss@apache.org In-Reply-To: <4C13C829-9481-4124-B802-8598C39B420E@gmail.com> Message-Id: <13D7E680-94B2-410E-B6EA-C7BFEECDEEF3@classsoftware.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.104.11) HI, Thanks for your response. In general that's exactly the same as the IPMC currently votes with the = exception of the following: - inclusion of compiled code - category X dependancy - inclusion of category X source code Which are currently treated as blockers by the IPMC. I see a contradiction here: > Blocker: Must be fixed and then revote: >>=20 >> - 3rd party Category X or Category B bundled code licenses not listed = in LICENSE With: > Issue: Release then file a JIRA to fix before next release >>=20 >> - Included compiled code (which is Category B/X) [3] As I can=E2=80=99t see anyone listing a Category X license in LICENSE. = Including Category X code is a common reasons releases get -1 votes, = putting a category X license in LICENSE has only happened a couple of = times, so it=E2=80=99s unlikely someone would include GPL code and put = the GPL license in LICENSE, it more common that they include GPL code = and don=E2=80=99t mention it in LICENSE or realise that it cannot be = included. >> Except for some people, who think that most things should be allowed, = there seems to be general agreement in the IPMC on this list, except for = allowing compiled code or having a category X dependency in a podling = release. > clr: this statement is a bit ambiguous The only things that in general IPMC people don=E2=80=99t seem to agree = on is having a category X dependancy or allowing compiled code in a = release which this currently thread is suggesting to allow. (If we put = aside the the everything is allowed position.) >> Votes on releases on the IPMC general list also confirm this. Some = people have expressed the view that as long as it is legal it is = allowed, but it unclear if that means full compliance with 3rd party = licenses or not. In a few cases, things from this list have been allowed = with permission from V.P legal / V.P incubator. > clr: I think we all agree that getting special permission should be a = last resort because by definition it delays a release Yep that=E2=80=99s currently the case. The cases when it been asked for = has been having a category X dependancy or inclusion. I=E2=80=99m not = sure what other situations would require it if theses things are = allowed. Thanks, Justin= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org