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From "Bertrand Delacretaz (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-462) How to use MariaDB (MySQL) in Apache.org (Java) projects, given that the only currently maintained JDBC driver is LGPL?
Date Wed, 12 Jun 2019 08:47:00 GMT

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Bertrand Delacretaz commented on LEGAL-462:
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Hi Michael, good to "talk" to you here! I think the key point is that releases of Apache projects
must not put any restrictions for users beyond the Apache License.

So you're right that "Category X" (as per [https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html)] dependencies
can be ok for testing and development, but must not be required to use the product and must
not be distributed with the product.

If Category X dependencies are downloaded automatically during development, users should we
warned to make them aware of the possible limitations as compared to the Apache License.

I guess I'm saying the same thing as Sebb above, in a slightly different way to help you understand
the context.

> How to use MariaDB (MySQL) in Apache.org (Java) projects, given that the only currently
maintained JDBC driver is LGPL?
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-462
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-462
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Michael Vorburger.ch
>            Priority: Major
>
> Dear Apache Legal Affairs Committee,
> I am aware that use of LGPL libraries are "frowned upon" for Apache.org hosted ASL projects.
> The Fineract Community is running into the specific issue FINERACT-761 we'd welcome your
view on:
> We need to use a JDBC driver to connect to the MariaDB (or MySQL) database. The BSD 3-Clause
licensed https://github.com/krummas/DrizzleJDBC appears to be dead and unmaintained for over
3 years. Its current use in Fineract is causing us pain, see FINERACT-761 req. for FINERACT-700
(also note e.g. https://github.com/flyway/flyway/issues/2332).
> The altnerative is the MariaDB.org Connector/J JDBC driver from https://downloads.mariadb.org/connector-java,
which is LGPL.
> What is a project supposed to do in a case like this? Or are we seriously saying that
Apache.org (Java) projects basically can't really use MariaDB (or MySQL) in practice?
> How do other Java based projects at Apache.org which use MariaDB (or MySQL) deal with
this conundrum??
> Would it be legally OK to use the MariaDB.org Connector/J JDBC driver at least during
build time in Gradle for Flyway, if it is not shipped in the final Fineract end-user distribution?
> Thank you very much for your help in somehow unblocking this,
> M.
> PS: Many ASL Java projects not hosted on Apache.org seem to depend on the LGPL MariaDB.org
Connector/J, but that's (probably) not relevant to Apache.org and this issue.



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