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From "Sebb (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-462) How to use MariaDB (MySQL) in Apache.org (Java) projects, given that the only currently maintained JDBC driver is LGPL?
Date Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:10:00 GMT

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Sebb commented on LEGAL-462:
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I don't think that is quite right.

It is vital that the project can be used without the use of the prohibited product.
http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
Also the product must not be distributed
http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#prohibited

IMO that means the project can make use of an LGPL library, but it must not be distributed,
and it must be optional, i.e. cannot be required for the product to function.

Furthermore, the user must be given the choice as to whether to download the library.

This is all about the principle of least surprise. The user should not be forced to use LGPL
when they download an AL2.0 licensed product.

> How to use MariaDB (MySQL) in Apache.org (Java) projects, given that the only currently
maintained JDBC driver is LGPL?
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-462
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-462
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Michael Vorburger.ch
>            Priority: Major
>
> Dear Apache Legal Affairs Committee,
> I am aware that use of LGPL libraries are "frowned upon" for Apache.org hosted ASL projects.
> The Fineract Community is running into the specific issue FINERACT-761 we'd welcome your
view on:
> We need to use a JDBC driver to connect to the MariaDB (or MySQL) database. The BSD 3-Clause
licensed https://github.com/krummas/DrizzleJDBC appears to be dead and unmaintained for over
3 years. Its current use in Fineract is causing us pain, see FINERACT-761 req. for FINERACT-700
(also note e.g. https://github.com/flyway/flyway/issues/2332).
> The altnerative is the MariaDB.org Connector/J JDBC driver from https://downloads.mariadb.org/connector-java,
which is LGPL.
> What is a project supposed to do in a case like this? Or are we seriously saying that
Apache.org (Java) projects basically can't really use MariaDB (or MySQL) in practice?
> How do other Java based projects at Apache.org which use MariaDB (or MySQL) deal with
this conundrum??
> Would it be legally OK to use the MariaDB.org Connector/J JDBC driver at least during
build time in Gradle for Flyway, if it is not shipped in the final Fineract end-user distribution?
> Thank you very much for your help in somehow unblocking this,
> M.
> PS: Many ASL Java projects not hosted on Apache.org seem to depend on the LGPL MariaDB.org
Connector/J, but that's (probably) not relevant to Apache.org and this issue.



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