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From Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: "Apache-Runtime-exception-2.0"
Date Sun, 16 Jun 2019 20:24:48 GMT
I think that they could achieve their desired effect by simply saying that
all generated code is the property of the person who wrote the code
generator. Then they could simply say that the rest of their code is Apache
licensed and mean it.





On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 12:57 PM David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 2:44 PM Hen <bayard@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > I've proposed an alternative in terms of SPDX id.
> >
> > Is anyone concerned with the Swift licensing not changing the name of
> the license?
>
> Yes
> When I went to https://swift.org/LICENSE.txt  it claims to be the
> Apache License.
>
> And yet it's not.
>
> And frankly, I am not even concerned with the terms of the new
> license, it appears more permissive which is fine, I suppose, but
> they're also trading on our good name and reputation.
>
> >
> > Typically I would be worried that a license modifier is attempting to
> use our name to confuse the public that their licensed product is as
> desirable as it would be under our license; or that a license modifier is
> weakening a license while confusing the public that their license is as
> valuable to use as ours.
> >
> > In this case they are weakening the requirements of the license in a
> reasonable use case, so I don't feel it's an attempt to confuse the public,
> and they do not appear to be proselytizing their license.
> >
>
> Like I said above, the terms of the license don't concern me - so
> much as they are modifying our license and still attempting to gild
> themselves with our name. This may be a bit less concerning in this
> case, but I think there is value in the 'Apache License' brand and not
> just having things that are similar to the Apache License.
>
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