From legal-discuss-return-15685-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@apache.org Tue Feb 12 03:12:07 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 25F2A180648 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 04:12:06 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 69380 invoked by uid 500); 12 Feb 2019 03:12:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 69362 invoked by uid 99); 12 Feb 2019 03:12:05 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:12:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id C8EA3182286 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:12:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.799 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, KAM_SHORT=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=daniel.shahaf.name header.b=PJ2iA0ef; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=F7kosLDj Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GKHhGTmxtGUg for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com (out2-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id D56E05FB73 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7E921FF3; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:12:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:12:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= daniel.shahaf.name; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=fm2; bh=hxZHvqnjRNSWv7 dsbyLznxCo/mtbpggcfhTUr3JTKxA=; b=PJ2iA0efqNP4yO02s2NSl8m6Z9C6Wt 1S9cznitLA4KjZRwaMD7aa2+CylBiDhz2QRZGw7ORRh1CM4ZoA16t+vwOwGMPVvF DB6vBwzh6sQsLaETKe26p++GfDdbkMxs6qMIP9kgtGH6+2zYVCr0klU5djK+LGeQ s3FIbkr790lZyzDlFOhwE6XrgXn8EDvhPZtcX4+KlZKnhwSCUzRdzcCJxxToYncw pCTRt5QWl8LxoVtClwitdWh9qlRsh5cyARs0f+Y9GuNeaYOxj5BHFLq4M22d9Qmk pXuqGNSd5v7oIaPxfl+3c1BZR2KcL+E2QxEWxRaBGpqSxGA+B1L+7IWQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; bh=hxZHvq njRNSWv7dsbyLznxCo/mtbpggcfhTUr3JTKxA=; b=F7kosLDjyUtT7a1x2JrIGS lq5+hMyABVIdfgaY0EkgPLTqkS5Tt0j2De7G9m2Vm31XNnmJ8uLFAxk9SkKOSi7T JJ+fNji5mrzNxzOo+jLkC4Rh55XQA9omaP5z2CTlUn85GF2I+9a2npGissHHwdWx 7LlsHXAo5h2YF6g+rq/cw5q5Rhu5ErNnMRnx1j1u0M3P67y3SqNy1PpSIrmOzSaS IuKOQLq079hcldgSgeHwTni5lb5IBZHrotqKdJTo6hrXMLiDYmqungPny7XbI2ZW hqyBdMb0uFBskDgSj5YOuYo637TeeZ5alnhzocc9+jsCjAdffATezVydQXB0p8AA == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtledruddttddgheehucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfquhhtnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucef tddtnecunecujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjfgesthdttddttdervdenucfhrhhomh epffgrnhhivghlucfuhhgrhhgrfhcuoegurdhssegurghnihgvlhdrshhhrghhrghfrdhn rghmvgeqnecuffhomhgrihhnpehphihpihdrohhrghenucfkphepjeelrddukedvrdeige drudehkeenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepugdrshesuggrnhhivghlrdhshhgr hhgrfhdrnhgrmhgvnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-ME-Proxy: Received: from tarpaulin.shahaf.local2 (bzq-79-182-64-158.red.bezeqint.net [79.182.64.158]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7B172E412F for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2019 22:12:01 -0500 (EST) Received: by tarpaulin.shahaf.local2 (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 43z73z65Z6zTN; Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2019 03:11:59 +0000 From: Daniel Shahaf To: legal-discuss@apache.org Subject: Re: PyPI MXNet Message-ID: <20190212031159.x5fmuvjl2h3y3bti@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170113 (1.7.2) Hen wrote on Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 09:28:56 -0800: > Noting that we don't provide guidance/policy afaict that allows for > https://pypi.org/project/apache-beam/ (as my perennial example). > > Our guidance is: > > * Projects shall not publish on pypi. Yes, projects shouldn't use pypi as their only release channel, but on the other hand, ASF is not interested in preventing its releases from being distributed via pypi (or any other downstream). > * Projects shall not publish unreleased material. I don't care whether RC's are on pypi or not so long as they aren't the default download. There are good engineering reasons to make RC's available via as same channels as possible to GA's, after all. > * "Using Apache Trademarks in software product branding: In general you may > not use Apache trademarks in any software product branding. However in very > specific situations you may use the Powered By naming form for software > products. " This quote isn't about downstream distribution channels that don't modify the source code. Rather, it's about forbidding people from creating a C compiler called "hadoop", or a compiler whose logo is the elephant or the feather, without our permission. > Outside of Mark's text in the JIRA issue, I don't see any guidance that > allows for the apache-beam pypi download. The whole point of an Apache brand is that we allow downstream distributors that don't modify the source code to use it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org