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From "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Comment Edited] (LEGAL-439) Q1 Website Review
Date Sun, 17 Feb 2019 19:47:00 GMT

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Henri Yandell edited comment on LEGAL-439 at 2/17/19 7:46 PM:
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Thoughts on the Licensing FAQ:

*Introductory paragraph*

The first sentence is useful, the second seems to be stating the bleeding obvious.

*Where can I find the Apache license?*

Fair enough.

*I'm not a lawyer. What does it all MEAN?*

An interesting section. There are things missing; needing to identify changes for example.
Very useful section though, might need tightening.

*If I'm using Apache software can I simply adhere to the Apache License 2.0, or do I have
to also adhere to the Apache Software License versions 1.0 and 1.1?*

Is this a common question? Consider for DELETE. The answer is also more about the license
migration 15 years ago.

*Why are the license files for the different Apache Software Foundation projects different?*

Seems good.

*Is 'Apache' a trademark?*

Seems good.

*Is software from The Apache Software Foundation free?*

Seems good.

*Is there a fee for using Apache software in a commercial product?*

Feels like this could be integrated into the previous question.

*What are the U.S. Export Classification Control Numbers (ECCNs) for the various Apache software
packages?*

Seems good.

-*Can I get Apache software on a CD-ROM?*-

-Dead link. DELETE.-

-*May I include Apache software or documentation on a CD-ROM I'm making?*-

-Dead link. DELETE.-

*May I license my own software under the Apache license?*

Seems good. A link could be here for guidance on how to apply this.

*May I re-use (and modify) the ASF Contributor License Agreements (CLAs) for my own purposes?*

Good, but we should add more detail on modifying. Perhaps we should make a template that lacks
the ASF specific content.

*May I re-use (and modify) the Apache License 2.0 itself?*

Looks fair. Some ideas here would be to suggest talking to the OSI if they want it to be considered
Open Source, to talk to us if they think they are fixing 'bugs', and to strengthen the language
about avoiding confusion.

*I've made improvements to the Apache code; may I distribute it?*

Fair. Some of the language feels confusing. "You may distribute the result under a different
license" probably implies more than it should.

*May I call my modified code 'Apache'?*

Should also mention logos; and should reference something for redistributors.

*I have made changes to an Apache package and I want to distribute them. Do I need to contribute
them to the Apache Software Foundation?*

We should repeat that they cannot maintain the name.

*May I translate the Apache license into my local language for my redistribution of Apache
packages?*

Seems good.

*Is the Apache license compatible with the GPL (GNU Public License)?*

Seems good.

*What is the scope of patent grants made to the ASF?*

Long history here.

*How do Apache projects apply the Apache license to their releases?*

Not sure this fits here. Unless we're answering indirectly offering some content for "How
do I apply the license to my code?"

*Can ASF PMCs host projects that are not under the Apache License?*

"No" is good, though the link doesn't add value. Might be useful to link to a history page
on creating the license, or keep it simple and just say No here.

*Are contributors required to sign a CCLA?*

Question is not quite right; "required to get their employers to sign a CCLA". Also; maybe
have a CLA FAQ that is separate from the license FAQ.


was (Author: bayard):
Thoughts on the Licensing FAQ:

*Introductory paragraph*

The first sentence is useful, the second seems to be stating the bleeding obvious.

*Where can I find the Apache license?*

Fair enough.

*I'm not a lawyer. What does it all MEAN?*

An interesting section. There are things missing; needing to identify changes for example.
Very useful section though, might need tightening.

*If I'm using Apache software can I simply adhere to the Apache License 2.0, or do I have
to also adhere to the Apache Software License versions 1.0 and 1.1?*

Is this a common question? Consider for DELETE. The answer is also more about the license
migration 15 years ago.

*Why are the license files for the different Apache Software Foundation projects different?*

Seems good.

*Is 'Apache' a trademark?*

Seems good.

*Is software from The Apache Software Foundation free?*

Seems good.

*Is there a fee for using Apache software in a commercial product?*

Feels like this could be integrated into the previous question.

*What are the U.S. Export Classification Control Numbers (ECCNs) for the various Apache software
packages?*

Seems good.

-*Can I get Apache software on a CD-ROM?*-

-Dead link. DELETE.-

-*May I include Apache software or documentation on a CD-ROM I'm making?*-

-Dead link. DELETE.-

*May I license my own software under the Apache license?*

Seems good. A link could be here for guidance on how to apply this.

*May I re-use (and modify) the ASF Contributor License Agreements (CLAs) for my own purposes?*

Good, but we should add more detail on modifying. Perhaps we should make a template that lacks
the ASF specific content.

*May I re-use (and modify) the Apache License 2.0 itself?*

Looks fair. Some ideas here would be to suggest talking to the OSI if they want it to be considered
Open Source, to talk to us if they think they are fixing 'bugs', and to strengthen the language
about avoiding confusion.

*I've made improvements to the Apache code; may I distribute it?*

Fair. Some of the language feels confusing. "You may distribute the result under a different
license" probably implies more than it should.

*May I call my modified code 'Apache'?*

Should also mention logos; and should reference something for redistributors.

*I have made changes to an Apache package and I want to distribute them. Do I need to contribute
them to the Apache Software Foundation?*

We should repeat that they cannot maintain the name.

*May I translate the Apache license into my local language for my redistribution of Apache
packages?*

Seems good.

*Is the Apache license compatible with the GPL (GNU Public License)?*

Seems good.

*What is the scope of patent grants made to the ASF?*

Long history here a complex question being asked to us.

*How do Apache projects apply the Apache license to their releases?*

Not sure this fits here. Unless we're answering indirectly offering some content for "How
do I apply the license to my code?"

*Can ASF PMCs host projects that are not under the Apache License?*

"No" is good, though the link doesn't add value. Might be useful to link to a history page
on creating the license, or keep it simple and just say No here.

*Are contributors required to sign a CCLA?*

Question is not quite right; "required to get their employers to sign a CCLA". Also; maybe
have a CLA FAQ that is separate from the license FAQ.

> Q1 Website Review
> -----------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-439
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-439
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Task
>            Reporter: Henri Yandell
>            Priority: Major
>
> Using this Jira issue as a scratch space to review our legal website content. Idea is
to copy any outstanding items to a fresh ticket each quarter. Or come up with a new harebrained
scheme :)
> Feel free to add any todo items.
> Pages under the Legal Committee purview:
> [https://www.apache.org/legal/index.html]
>  [https://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html]
>  [https://www.apache.org/legal/dmca.html]
>  [https://www.apache.org/legal/ghmon.html]
>  [https://www.apache.org/legal/ramblings.html]
>  [https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html]
>  [https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html]
>  [https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html]
> There are also 38 files under [https://www.apache.org/licenses/]
> Other pages of interest:
> * http://apache.org/free/ - items related to cost of software from the licensing FAQ



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