From legal-discuss-return-14915-archive-asf-public=cust-asf.ponee.io@apache.org Fri Jul 6 17:43:02 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mx-eu-01.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 45B11180627 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 17:43:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 21504 invoked by uid 500); 6 Jul 2018 15:43:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 21494 invoked by uid 99); 6 Jul 2018 15:43:01 -0000 Received: from mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org (HELO mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.139) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 06 Jul 2018 15:43:01 +0000 Received: from jira-lw-us.apache.org (unknown [207.244.88.139]) by mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mailrelay1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id AA1B1E00A7 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jira-lw-us.apache.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jira-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at jira-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTP id 49A8E27508 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2018 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) From: "Chesnay Schepler (JIRA)" To: legal-discuss@apache.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-392) Depending on Jepsen and the SOLIPSISTIC ECLIPSE PUBLIC LICENSE MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-JIRA-FingerPrint: 30527f35849b9dde25b450d4833f0394 [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-392?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=16535014#comment-16535014 ] Chesnay Schepler commented on LEGAL-392: ---------------------------------------- I have 2 questions that I would appreciate being answered, to better understand how licenses should be interpreted. The license does not give any right to "use" the "work", why is is this not a problem? The conditions to "copy, modify and distribute the work" include "you do not believe the Eclipse Foundation or the author exists" and "affirm publicly when referring to the work [...] that the work does not exist". It seems this conditions cannot realistically be fulfilled; is this section irrelevant since we're not redistributing any code from jepsen? > Depending on Jepsen and the SOLIPSISTIC ECLIPSE PUBLIC LICENSE > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: LEGAL-392 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-392 > Project: Legal Discuss > Issue Type: Question > Reporter: Gary Yao > Priority: Major > > Hello Legal Affairs Committee, > We want to add a project to the Apache Flink repository that has Jepsen 0.1.8 as > a dependency. The project is an optional tool that can be used to test Flink. It > is neither needed to build Flink, nor it would be shipped in the binary release. > Jepsen 0.1.8 is licensed under a joke license called the "SOLIPSISTIC ECLIPSE > PUBLIC LICENSE" [1]. Beginning with Jepsen 0.1.10, the license changed to the > Eclipse Public License [2], which makes it unambiguously clear that the library > can be included as a dependency in ASF projects. However, we want to avoid > upgrading to version 0.1.10 due to issues with that version. > Assuming that we want to stick with 0.1.8, our questions are as follows: > # Is it acceptable to license the code, which depends on Jepsen, under the Apache License? > # Is it acceptable to include the code, which depends on Jepsen, in the git repository? > # Is it acceptable to include the code, which depends on Jepsen, in the source release? > We found that Apache Kudu does all the things above [3] but we are not sure if > this is compliant. > Thanks for any help! > [1] [https://github.com/jepsen-io/jepsen/blob/0.1.8/jepsen/LICENSE.txt] > [2] [https://github.com/jepsen-io/jepsen/blob/0.1.10/jepsen/LICENSE.txt] > [3] [https://github.com/apache/kudu/tree/master/java/kudu-jepsen] -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v7.6.3#76005) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org