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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: What is ASF recommend way, when some plugins inSkyWalkingecosystemareusinglicense GPLs?
Date Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:15:39 GMT
OK, thanks for confirming.

On 26 February 2018 at 10:53, 吴晟 Sheng Wu <wu.sheng@foxmail.com> wrote:
>> is it possible to build and use SkyWalking without downloading the GPL
>> code?
>
> Yes.
>
>> I assume there will be some reduction in functionality, but would the
>> product still be usable by the majority of users?
>
> If the target system, being SkyWalking monitored, use Oracle or resin
> inside, this parts of access will not be traced and monitored. That is all.
> In my perspective, that is a very small part of SkyWalking functions.
>
> So, I will say will still be usable by the majority of users.
>
> In our existed cases, Resin and Oracle are not popular in distributed
> system. Most are using Tomcat or Dubbo to provide service, and using MySQL,
> Porstgre as DBs.
>
> ------------------
> Sheng Wu
> Apache SkyWalking creator and PPMC member
>
>
>
> ------------------ Original ------------------
> From:  "sebb"<sebbaz@gmail.com>;
> Date:  Mon, Feb 26, 2018 06:45 PM
> To:  "legal-discuss"<legal-discuss@apache.org>;
> Subject:  Re: What is ASF recommend way, when some plugins
> inSkyWalkingecosystemareusinglicense GPLs?
>
> Can I just clarify:
>
> is it possible to build and use SkyWalking without downloading the GPL code?
>
> I assume there will be some reduction in functionality, but would the
> product still be usable by the majority of users?
>
> On 25 February 2018 at 20:35, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Your approach sounds very good. Having a runtime-only completely optional
>> dependency that is only used if provided by the final user is a good way
>> to
>> deal with a gpl dependency.
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2018 05:49, "吴晟 Sheng Wu" <wu.sheng@foxmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, they are. Our champion helps us to make it optional. And our another
>>> mentor, William Jiang, suggests we can recheck.
>>>
>>> ------------------
>>> Sheng Wu
>>> Apache SkyWalking creator and PPMC member
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------ Original ------------------
>>> From:  "John D. Ament"<johndament@apache.org>;
>>> Date:  Sun, Feb 25, 2018 09:47 PM
>>> To:  "legal-discuss"<legal-discuss@apache.org>;
>>> Subject:  Re: What is ASF recommend way, when some plugins
>>> inSkyWalkingecosystemareusing license GPLs?
>>>
>>> Your mentors should be guiding you on that, and as a secondary resource
>>> discuss it on general@incubator.  We'll typically guide you on an answer,
>>> or
>>> if it's something we've never seen before we'll recommend you to bring it
>>> up
>>> here.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:58 AM 吴晟 Sheng Wu <wu.sheng@foxmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you are correct. Because I am new in Apache community, and
>>>> SkyWalking is preparing the first release in the next two weeks. So I
>>>> want
>>>> to make sure I didn't break the rule.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------
>>>> Sheng Wu
>>>> Apache SkyWalking creator and PPMC member
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------ Original ------------------
>>>> From:  "John D. Ament"<johndament@apache.org>;
>>>> Date:  Sun, Feb 25, 2018 08:13 PM
>>>> To:  "legal-discuss"<legal-discuss@apache.org>;
>>>> Subject:  Re: What is ASF recommend way, when some plugins
>>>> inSkyWalkingecosystemare using license GPLs?
>>>>
>>>> So what's your question exactly?  You're covering all of your bases.
>>>> I'm
>>>> assuming that by default this module doesn't compile, and a user has to
>>>> explicitly enable something to compile this module, is that correct?
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 6:04 AM 吴晟 Sheng Wu <wu.sheng@foxmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is optional now.
>>>>>
>>>>> ---Original---
>>>>> From: "Justin Mclean"<justin@classsoftware.com>
>>>>> Date: Sun, Feb 25, 2018 13:13 PM
>>>>> To: "legal-discuss"<legal-discuss@apache.org>;
>>>>> Subject: Re: What is ASF recommend way, when some plugins
>>>>> inSkyWalkingecosystem are using license GPLs?
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> The dependencies in question are downloaded into the user's maven
>>>>> repository when compiling the source.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In that case would most of the users install this i.e. can it be
>>>>> considered an optional dependancy? [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional
>
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