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From "Shane Curcuru (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-341) Apache Royale Website
Date Tue, 07 Nov 2017 17:23:00 GMT

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Shane Curcuru commented on LEGAL-341:
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bq. IMO paying a one-time license fee for a website theme is similar to paying someone to
design that website.
bq. I think that's acceptable if the project can find sponsors for doing that. Considering
the small amount I suppose people can renounce buying a few drinks-of-their-choice and pool
money for this 

I disagree - the funding is not particularly an issue, since the PMC is being open and transparent
about this.

The issue is that the actual design used on the website that users see is under a commercial
license.  That means that the project can't simply say "Copyright Apache Software Foundation
- Under Apache 2.0" on their website.  I would expect to see a crystal clear footer noting
that their website code is NOT under the Apache license, which points to an informational
webpage that describes what part of the website is under the commercial license (which presumably
users cannot use without buying their own license).

In general, users expect that everything coming from the ASF is under our license, with obvious
exceptions noted in our very well documented NOTICE files.  This is an exception to that expectation
and one that might actually matter to users who look to Royale to build user interfaces.

I'm fine with this use, as long as it's crystal clear to users how the licensing of all content
on their site works.

> Apache Royale Website
> ---------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-341
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-341
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Carlos Rovira
>
> Hi,
> after discussion on private lists (royale and trademarks) and public legal about how
to manage Apache Royale website, ASF members involved suggest to open this ticket so we could
consolidate a position and operate in safety.
> Apache Royale PMC members created a temporal site at http://royale.codeoscopic.com
> to be the public face of the project.It's done based in wordpress (other ASF sites like
this is feathercast). We want a modern, clean and fresh site easy to maintain and update since
we must to compete with the current solutions available.
> (Notice the preview url site is incomplete and as soon as we get green light we'll be
working on the different pages).
> To get to the current state without the tools we used would be nearly impossible. And
our focus is to use our time to work in what we offer to the community: the apache royale
source code that is really our interest, the reason behind our work here and the product we
really deliver. So for us, the site is only a drive to get our goal, and we could compare
with other tools in the chain like gihub, jira, maven and others.
> We thought to host the site on wordpress.com, but we found plans are very limited and
expensive so we want to generate the complete static html site from wordpress and upload it
to Apache Royale website repo to be server by http://royale.apache.org
> At this point this is the most easy way to make this happen and we think is behind the
Apache rules to host static html on ASF repo and make it available from royale.apache.org.
> Our main concern is about one of the pieces in the website used that is comercial:
> Movedo Theme: https://themeforest.net/item/movedo-we-do-move-your-world/17923709
> We think we need to purchase a license of this piece of code that is an affordable cost
of 59$ (only one payment forever). Notice that this days the item is on a sale for 39$. This
could be done with fundraising or donation.
> Hope we could get a response in order to continue working on the site to complete it
for production and publish it as soon as we can.
> Thanks for your time.
> Carlos



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