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From Konstantin Boudnik <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: What kind of metrics / telemetry is an Apache project allowed to record?
Date Tue, 31 Oct 2017 18:27:24 GMT
We are in a very similar situation with Apache Ignite, where we'd like
to track the usage stats of the project. But we really don't want
anything fancy, but to know the number of the installations and their
geo-spread. Incidentally, we don't even want to keep the info once the
stats were derived and clearly aren't interested in users IP address
beyond the general vicinity of it (e.g. UK, Russia, US, and so on).

IANAL, but recording OS info or plugins might require an explicit
consent of the users. You might find [1] to be useful for the
background information.
  With regards,
Konstantin (Cos) Boudnik
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Emilian Bold <emilian.bold@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> We have very little metrics from ASF for Apache JMeter and the best
> source seems to be a 3rd party site that has a popular plugin portal
> and records more information.
> This is a pretty sad state of affairs:
> * downloads are not counted very accurately. I discovered there are
> some text logs on http://www-us.apache.org/dyn/stats/ but these are
> very approximate and the mirrors send no logs back to Apache for
> centralisation or such.
> * website logs are on-demand only. I see the ASF does use Google
> Analytics as per
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/privacy.html but individual
> projects don't (can't?) so we only have server logs(?)
> It would be interesting to
> * record version information, operating system, popular plugins ourselves
> * allow users to send an error "to us" when it happens (error reporting).
> So, what kind of privacy policy must we follow for such a feature and
> how can INFRA help us with a server to receive these messages?
> Having more info about the current state and the trend of our user
> base would allow some better planning since everybody is
> time-constrained.
> Having this info under our control would allow us to actually follow a
> given privacy policy instead of relying on a 3rd party site that does
> not even *have* a privacy policy.
> Some of these questions apply to Apache NetBeans too, as we have a
> very nice error reporting mechanism there with a custom server backend
> for detecting duplicates, statistics and such.
> --emi
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