Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AA1200CC6 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 22:59:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 753A1165D72; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 20:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 95244165D50 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 22:59:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 10194 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jul 2017 20:59:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 10172 invoked by uid 99); 18 Jul 2017 20:59:21 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd2-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 20:59:21 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd2-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd2-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 956CC1A0AD8 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 20:59:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd2-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.379 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.379 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd2-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-us.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd2-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.9]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ma8of4i8iJ33 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 20:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-it0-f43.google.com (mail-it0-f43.google.com [209.85.214.43]) by mx1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 652B65FD26 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 20:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-it0-f43.google.com with SMTP id h199so19823895ith.1 for ; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:59:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=YUxX2qEE9aJXbF/SZNuKe8dVhl3MAXwqJI+u4dXEGzk=; b=WuTLF5ToBlVP3CtrrFa09qmMRErPsD7hUZ+o8N/v4nsvnzpCq+6L35fMsR6bcAxWb7 4mhK1/UvXJgoBDEvju+EYzIT1HYpolKXOzdrgHX9A6A8oKmpFKQwUpDc3FKq17CcS66i q//ydeOraYHye0HSvOOkZLauos0PyqxoWVmTlCZr0sNUoGZ0W8RBmy5qa/1zdpZGZTT/ 54ViR6WbtadmwExbxbflBOx391T7SD4uvUk5epV4R7xETYEuPisjuo0sVleFqOw1pGq4 cialmpYUBf8PAcspKcN2FpK0sopiTS+hl6DbqLmS25lCBImaXa1HFrseo/KbCEDE2Got 1wXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=YUxX2qEE9aJXbF/SZNuKe8dVhl3MAXwqJI+u4dXEGzk=; b=L7xnwylN/LNvU9JtUgSs4Kivq21lZ/Ax8f2HtzqJKLiCTyHYqf78LufFwmqdCA8d/z L9XHf1rOQAanz3WGUfyqv8l2BqPT9EC2g+hCz1PJovIo4ZtAeQmxmW82J8gMx1otB6my KicBECg0dTF6Q2Y5fFzWsa0o8dGLEjUwWPV4D4C6jPNKbgtYmQn2q5Gl50kVMvoRpGPQ ulXRl2GsZ2bkJRO4Alfhgav/nadDXQZbOuw1BRkQfNm+k/+xztLscD1iy3oJjIe2Mf4e zPfcgTN9elxqMor4ERwX80AhYkB49ijf6MJ2mvhlxwsvwNcILRZJS2JypNmUkxCyJbYW hVFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIVw112fbDHROwkj5Ph0Vuk5cSFIifQRwOdun2aGqo01Rtk2cWA2dCi1 v3tLF0VQ42p2od0Z1OQz+ekT+aDE5Q== X-Received: by 10.36.22.17 with SMTP id a17mr3856880ita.40.1500411558610; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:59:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.156.197 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:59:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5CAB8DF2-C0B3-4C29-8FEC-2A4D09D2754D@pobox.com> References: <47A1DD5A-6B57-4F46-BF09-D1A685EA5639@apache.org> <8E6BABBE-7717-40EB-B7D1-CEAC58C5F138@apache.org> <5CAB8DF2-C0B3-4C29-8FEC-2A4D09D2754D@pobox.com> From: Greg Stein Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 15:59:17 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products To: legal-discuss@apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11437ea8f7ce9705549dc998" archived-at: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 20:59:25 -0000 --001a11437ea8f7ce9705549dc998 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > On Jul 18, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Jul 18, 2017 10:07, "Tim Williams" wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > > > > > On Jul 18, 2017 07:15, "Shane Curcuru" wrote: > >>... > > > > Along with the many, many legal inaccuracies by various comment posters= , > > it's somehow sad that most people forget the Software in our name... > > > > > > Hunh?! What the f are you talking about? Too vague. It sounds "boo hoo"= , > but > > I have no idea what you're talking about. > > I gather he meant literally. Many of the comments/reports around all > this has been about the Apache Foundation and not the Apache > *Software* Foundation. > > > Ooooohhhh!!! Yeah. Noticed that. > > > Which I find hilarious, as 95% of all references to the *license* call it > the =E2=80=9CApache Software License=E2=80=9D when it=E2=80=99s just the = =E2=80=9CApache License=E2=80=9D > Yup. Or APL ... sad thing is that some people *at* the ASF use ASL or APL, rather than ALv2. :-( --001a11437ea8f7ce9705549dc998 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Jul 18, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geir@pobox.com> wrote:
On Jul 18, 2017, a= t 4:21 PM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 18, 2017 10:07, "Tim Williams"= <williamstw@g= mail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 a= t 9:53 AM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Jul 18, 201= 7 07:15, "Shane Curcuru" <asf@shanecurcuru.org> wrote:
>>...>
> Along with the many, many legal inaccuracies by various comme= nt posters,
> it's somehow sad that most people forget the Softwa= re in our name...
>
>
> Hunh?! What the f are you talking= about? Too vague. It sounds "boo hoo", but
> I have no ide= a what you're talking about.

I gather he meant literally.= =C2=A0 Many of the comments/reports around all
this has been about the A= pache Foundation and not the Apache
*Software* Foundation.

Ooooohhhh!!! Yeah. Not= iced that.

Which I find hilar= ious, as 95% of all references to the *license* call it the =E2=80=9CApache= Software License=E2=80=9D when it=E2=80=99s just the =E2=80=9CApache Licen= se=E2=80=9D

Yup. Or APL=C2=A0

... sad thing is that some people *at* the ASF use = ASL or APL, rather than ALv2. :-(

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