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From "John D. Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
Subject Re: ROCKSDB license and Apache projects
Date Sat, 15 Jul 2017 18:40:15 GMT
And what about depending on in binary form?

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:49 PM Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org> wrote:

> Based on what I’ve read in follow on emails, e.g., from Jason, no, the JNI
> library (whether it says
> ALv2 or not – seems to have odd provenance in its headers etc) is not
> something I’d feel comfortable
> for projects including in their released sources.
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> Cheers,
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> Chris
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> *From: *"John D. Ament" <johndament@apache.org>
> *Reply-To: *"legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 6:12 AM
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> *To: *"legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: ROCKSDB license and Apache projects
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> And the jni question?
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> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:58 AM Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org>
> wrote:
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> Thanks I’ll make sure this is updated on the legal page.
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> Cheers,
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> Chris
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> *From: *"John D. Ament" <johndament@apache.org>
> *Reply-To: *"legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 6:17 AM
> *To: *"legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: ROCKSDB license and Apache projects
>
>
>
> Chris,
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> In addition, I want to point out that the industry name for this license
> is "Facebook BSD+Patents license" and it applies to much more than RocksDB.
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> John
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> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 6:09 AM John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
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> Chris,
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> Did you see my note about rocksdbjni?  This is what's actually used in
> Kafka, and possibly other projects (I just checked Samza and Flink, both
> are using it).  That seems to be licensed differently.  I would recommend
> getting that squared away to avoid any incorrect statements going out to
> PMCs.
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> Note that RocksDB doesn't ship any JARs, its a C++ library.  rocksdbjni
> does ship JARs, but it appears that this is an Apache Licensed product (no
> mention at all of the patent waiver).
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>
> John
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> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:51 PM Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org>
> wrote:
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> Please note that I will send the below to pmcs@ tomorrow likely by
> mid-day Eastern Standard Time.
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> -----
>
> Hi,
>
> As some of you may know, recently the ROCKSDB has been
> moved to Category X (https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved#category-x).
> Please see LEGAL-303 [1] for a discussion of this.
>
> This has impacted some projects, to date based on LEGAL-303
> and the detective work of Todd Lipcon:
>
> Samza, Flink, Marmotta, Kafka and Bahir
>
> (perhaps more)
>
> Please take notice of the following policy:
>
> o No new project, sub-project or codebase, which has not
>   used ROCKSDB licensed jars (or similar), are allowed to use
>   them. In other words, if you haven't been using them, you
>   aren't allowed to start. It is Cat-X.
>
> o If you have been using it, and have done so in a *release*,
>   you have a temporary exclusion from the Cat-X classification thru
>   August 31, 2017. At that point in time, ANY and ALL usage
>   of these ROCKSDB licensed artifacts are DISALLOWED. You must
>   either find a suitably licensed replacement, or do without.
>   There will be NO exceptions.
>
> o Any situation not covered by the above is an implicit
>   DISALLOWAL of usage.
>
> Also please note that in the 2nd situation (where a temporary
> exclusion has been granted), you MUST ensure that NOTICE explicitly
> notifies the end-user that a ROCKSDB licensed artifact exists. They
> may not be aware of it up to now, and that MUST be addressed.
>
> If there are any questions, please ask on the legal-discuss@a.o
> list.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris Mattmann
> VP Legal Affairs
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-303
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