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From Danese Cooper <dan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products
Date Sun, 16 Jul 2017 19:01:11 GMT
Much under discussion. All over Twitter and Facebook. Makes me proud of the
ASF.

D

On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 6:18 PM Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks Ted, I’ll put that into my report I have to write today ;)
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> *From: *Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *"legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> *Date: *Sunday, July 16, 2017 at 10:03 AM
> *To: *"legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Facebook BSD+patents license and Apache products
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> This topic is tending highly on hacker news as well.
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> On Jul 16, 2017 2:38 AM, "Robert Samuel Newson" <rnewson@apache.org>
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> I'm sure you've all seen it but a member of the CouchDB PMC raised an
> issue to discuss if React would change away from this license:
> https://github.com/facebook/react/issues/10191.
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> > On 15 Jul 2017, at 17:56, Chris Mattmann <mattmann@apache.org> wrote:
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> > Hi,
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> > As some of you may know, recently the Facebook BSD+patents license has
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> > moved to Category X (https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved#category-x).
> > Please see LEGAL-303 [1] for a discussion of this. The license is also
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> > to as the ROCKSDB license, even though Facebook BSD+patents is its more
> > industry standard name.
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> > This has impacted some projects, to date based on LEGAL-303
> > and the detective work of Todd Lipcon:
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> > Samza, Flink, Marmotta, Kafka and Bahir
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> > Please take notice of the following policy:
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> > o No new project, sub-project or codebase, which has not
> >  used Facebook BSD+patents licensed jars (or similar), are allowed to use
> >  them. In other words, if you haven't been using them, you
> >  aren't allowed to start. It is Cat-X.
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> > o If you have been using it, and have done so in a *release*,
> >  you have a temporary exclusion from the Cat-X classification thru
> >  August 31, 2017. At that point in time, ANY and ALL usage
> >  of these Facebook BSD+patents licensed artifacts are DISALLOWED. You
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> >  either find a suitably licensed replacement, or do without.
> >  There will be NO exceptions.
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> > o Any situation not covered by the above is an implicit
> >  DISALLOWAL of usage.
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> > Also please note that in the 2nd situation (where a temporary
> > exclusion has been granted), you MUST ensure that NOTICE explicitly
> > notifies the end-user that a Facebook BSD+patents licensed artifact
> exists. They
> > may not be aware of it up to now, and that MUST be addressed.
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> > If there are any questions, please ask on the legal-discuss@a.o
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> > Thanks.
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> > Cheers,
> > Chris Mattmann
> > VP Legal Affairs
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> > [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-303
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