Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF74D200BFC for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:46:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id EDE0F160B35; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 43F15160B28 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 15:46:08 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 41931 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jan 2017 14:46:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 41921 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jan 2017 14:46:07 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:46:07 +0000 Received: from mail-yw0-f175.google.com (mail-yw0-f175.google.com [209.85.161.175]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id EF18C1A06AA for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-f175.google.com with SMTP id l19so46828001ywc.2 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 06:46:06 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIV5YncQrSQM+Bq74UD5V14Bc3uI48Mrvr6BVy70WAyL3GK1lHu1ytqYJjDWAh1DueG39BDQjKK6om6gQ== X-Received: by 10.129.113.3 with SMTP id m3mr19673794ywc.171.1484405166222; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 06:46:06 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5391218A-4A7F-4262-98E1-F6C110C0FF0B@jaguNET.com> In-Reply-To: <5391218A-4A7F-4262-98E1-F6C110C0FF0B@jaguNET.com> From: "John D. Ament" Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:45:55 +0000 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: HSQLDB as an acceptable license? To: legal-discuss@apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114739aca2b6ff05460f0232 archived-at: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:46:09 -0000 --001a114739aca2b6ff05460f0232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 So either I'm going crazy or something changed about HSQL's license. Its now an exact mirror of BSD 3 Clause, with the appropriate replacements. http://hsqldb.org/web/hsqlLicense.html John On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 4:44 PM Jim Jagielski wrote: > As far as I know, HSQLDB is not OSI approved, as such, we should > not be considering it as acceptable first. It does not make > sense to allow dependency on non-OSI approved licenses in > the 1st place. > > > On Jan 12, 2017, at 8:20 PM, John D. Ament > wrote: > > > > The HSQLDB license is derived from BSD-3-Clause > > > > http://hsqldb.org/web/hsqlLicense.html > > https://spdx.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause.html > > > > However, it's not quite the same. It reads similar to the BSD-4-Clause, > however the advertising notions are moved into the 2nd clause, and the > BSD-3-Clause's 2nd clause is split into two clauses. > > > > John > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org > > --001a114739aca2b6ff05460f0232 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So either I'm going crazy or something changed about H= SQL's license.=C2=A0 Its now an exact mirror of BSD 3 Clause, with the = appropriate replacements.

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John

On Fr= i, Jan 13, 2017 at 4:44 PM Jim Jagielski <jim@jagunet.com> wrote:
As far as I know, HSQLDB is not OSI approved, as such, we should
not be considering it as acceptable first. It does not make
sense to allow dependency on non-OSI approved licenses in
the 1st place.

> On Jan 12, 2017, at 8:20 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.o= rg> wrote:
>
> The HSQLDB license is derived from BSD-3-Clause
>
> http://hsqldb.org/web/hsqlLicense.htm= l
> https://spdx.org/licenses/BSD-3-= Clause.html
>
> However, it's not quite the same.=C2=A0 It reads similar to the BS= D-4-Clause, however the advertising notions are moved into the 2nd clause, = and the BSD-3-Clause's 2nd clause is split into two clauses.
>
> John


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