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From Ted Dunning <ted.dunn...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: JSON License and Apache Projects
Date Thu, 24 Nov 2016 07:10:56 GMT
I would avoid dealing with this pom. It is a technical inaccurate
description of a non-open source licensed piece of software.

If you want an open version of the org.json API, see here:

https://github.com/tdunning/open-json
https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.tdunning/json



On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 10:17 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:

> I don't use GH much, but I don't see a way to contact the owner or open an
> issue against that repo.  Any suggestions on if and how to deal with this
> pom?
>
> -Alex
>
> From: Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 4:01 PM
> To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> Subject: Re: JSON License and Apache Projects
>
>
> John,
>
> The link that Alex provided ( https://mvnrepository.com/
> artifact/org.codeartisans/org.json/20150729 ) is backed up by this source
> code:
>
> https://github.com/eskatos/org.json-java
>
> That source code is purely a pom that packages up the original json.org
> code. It has no source code whatsoever. The README says just this and
> inspection of the src/ directory shows no additional or modified content.
>
> The license clause is simply mis-leading and wrong. It breaks the
> problematic do-no-evil clause out into a comment instead of recognizing it
> as part of the license.
>
>     <licenses>
>         <license>
>             <name>MIT</name>
>             <url>http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT</url>
>             <distribution>repo</distribution>
>             <comments>The software shall be used for good, not
> evil.</comments>
>         </license>
>     </licenses>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:50 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 3:34 PM Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:07 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 1:16 PM Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Justin Mclean
>>> >> <justin@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>>> >> > Hi,
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> MIT is OSI certified, compatible with the GPL, and category
A.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The JSON license is not OSI certified, not compatible with
the GPL,
>>> >> >> and (now) category X.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yep no disagreement from me there.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I should of said it’s based of the text of the MIT license plus
the
>>> “Do
>>> >> > good not evil bit” which it probably why the pom states MIT.
>>> >>
>>> >> All apples are fruit, but not all fruit are apples.
>>> >>
>>> >> Religions, Species, and Software Licenses are all examples of
>>> >> categories where having a "common ancestor" doesn't mean that two
>>> >> instances of the superclass are compatible.
>>> >>
>>> >> The POM is misleading to the point of being unhelpful and incorrect.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Just wondering, what POM are you looking at? The true pom has this for
>>> its
>>> > license:
>>> >
>>> > <licenses>
>>> >     <license>
>>> >       <name>provided without support or warranty</name>
>>> >       <url>http://www.json.org/license.html</url>
>>> >     </license>
>>> >   </licenses>
>>> >
>>> > This is the 20090211 version.  Similar for the 20080701 version.
>>> Prior to
>>> > it had no license declaration.
>>>
>>> Here is the link provided earlier in the thread:
>>>
>>> https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.codeartisans/org.json/20150729
>>>
>>> That page indicates that the JAR is made available under the MIT and
>>> Apache licenses.
>>>
>>
>> Ok, that's what I'm checking on then.  The link Alex pointed out is for a
>> different artifact (binary compatible), different source code.
>>
>> Its similar to the google vs oracle copyright an API case.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> - Sam Ruby
>>>
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