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From "P. Taylor Goetz" <ptgo...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Non-DoD Source] US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License (ARL OSL)
Date Tue, 26 Jul 2016 20:58:55 GMT
Would anything on forge.mil help? I can’t really tell because I no longer have a DoD CAC
or PKI cert, but it might be worth looking there.

-Taylor

> On Jul 26, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US) <cem.f.karan.civ@mail.mil>
wrote:
> 
> I haven't asked about the GOSS board, but I am in email contact with Daniel
> Risacher who is in the DoD CIO's office.  I haven't spoken with him directly
> about this, but another person I'm working with has (Sean Morrison, in case
> you know him).  From what I understand, there is policy for purchasing or
> using open source projects, but nothing that explicitly deals with making open
> source a day-to-day business practice.
> 
> Do you still have any other contacts within the office?  I'm reaching out in
> every way I can think of to anyone I can find, but cold calling is less
> effective than direct introductions.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cem Karan
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Matt Franklin [mailto:m.ben.franklin@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 2:57 PM
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>> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: US Army Research Laboratory Open Source
>> License (ARL OSL)
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>> 
>> In a past work life, I collaborated with the DoD CIO's office.  At the time
>> (2012), they had put together the Government Open Source
>> Software (GOSS) board.  Have you looked into what they have in terms of
>> licensing policy?  I know things like OWF were released under an
>> Apache license; but, I believe they have discussed many of your issues and
>> might already have something that would work for you.
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US)
>> <cem.f.karan.civ@mail.mil < Caution-
>> mailto:cem.f.karan.civ@mail.mil > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 	Hi, my name is Cem Karan.  I work for the US Army Research Laboratory (ARL)
>> in
>> 	Adelphi, MD.  I'm in charge of defining the Open Source policy for ARL.  As
>> a
>> 	part of this, we need a license that meets our legal and regulatory needs,
>> but
>> 	is ideally fully interchangeable with the Apache 2 license as defined at
>> 	Caution-http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt <
>> Caution-http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt > . We also
>> want our license to be
>> 	fully accepted by OSI (Caution-https://opensource.org/ <
>> Caution-https://opensource.org/ > ) as a valid Open Source
>> 	license.
>> 
>> 	Unfortunately, we cannot directly use the Apache 2 license for all of our
>> 	code.  Most of our researchers work for the US Federal Government and under
>> US
>> 	copyright law any works they produce during the course of their duties do
>> not
>> 	have copyright attached, so we have to rely on contract law as a protection
>> 	mechanism within the USA.  We considered using NOSA 1.3
>> 	(Caution-https://opensource.org/licenses/NASA-1.3 <
>> Caution-https://opensource.org/licenses/NASA-1.3 > ), but apparently that
>> it isn't
>> 	interoperable with other Open Source licenses.  As I understand it, some
>> work
>> 	on the NOSA 2.0 license was done to improve interoperability, but that work
>> is
>> 	currently stalled.
>> 
>> 	For that reason, we've tried to modify the Apache 2.0 license to fit our
>> 	needs.  Our license, the ARL Open Source License (ARL OSL), is listed in
>> full
>> 	below and can be diffed with license text found at
>> 	Caution-http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt <
>> Caution-http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0.txt >  with
>> relative ease; the text
>> 	has also been attached to this email in case my mail client scrambles the
>> 	formatting.
>> 
>> 	So, my questions regarding the license are as follows:
>> 
>> 	- Are there any conflicts in the terms of the ARL OSL and the Apache 2.0
>> 	license?  If so, what are they, and what are the possible fixes for them?
>> If
>> 	not, could/would the license be listed as a 'category-a' license like the
>> 	licenses found at
>> Caution-http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a < Caution-
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a > ?
>> 
>> 	- If there are conflicts, are they directional?  That is, can code under
>> the
>> 	ARL OSL flow to projects under the Apache 2.0 license, but not vice-versa?
>> If
>> 	so, how do we fix our license?
>> 
>> 	In my ideal world, where there is copyright protection, the ARL OSL would
>> be
>> 	legally identical to the Apache 2.0 license.  Where there is no copyright
>> 	protection it would fall back on contract law, without preventing the
>> 	copyrightable parts from using copyright protection.  I'm not sure if this
>> is
>> 	possible, but I'm hoping the smart people on this list will help me get as
>> 	close to that ideal as possible.
>> 
>> 	The summary of changes between the ARL OSL and Apache 2.0 license are as
>> 	follows:
>> 
>> 	1) Changed the name and version number.
>> 
>> 	2) Changed the definition of 'Licensor' to use 'project originator' instead
>> of
>> 	'copyright owner'.
>> 
>> 	3) Changed the definition of 'Work' to not use the word 'copyright'.
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>> 	4) Changed the definition of 'Contributor' to use 'author' instead of
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>> 
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>> 
>> 	6) In the notice, removed the word 'Copyright'.
>> 
>> 	7) In the notice, changed 'copyright owner' to Licensor.
>> 
>> 	8) Scrambled the URL as we don't have one yet.
>> 
>> 	Thank you,
>> 	Cem Karan
>> 
>> 	"""
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