Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id D533A200AE4 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:21:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id D3C83160A59; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 05:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 29345160A58 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:21:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 93672 invoked by uid 500); 10 Jun 2016 05:21:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 93661 invoked by uid 99); 10 Jun 2016 05:21:39 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 05:21:39 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 218231805FC for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 05:21:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.106 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.106 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.614] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=classsoftware-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q07ZtuCSih-4 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 05:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-f52.google.com (mail-pa0-f52.google.com [209.85.220.52]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 8F1E35F1D5 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 05:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id hl6so20124940pac.2 for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:21:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=classsoftware-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=XTUn809roTCoB2BTtCYm8H98jLsr22l6JVv0pri/D5w=; b=v9qPmVl2VFLflXbPgTUuMv0FSBJ3bqb3x6SUUtcvFpz7hVZEhn/QfkTxoIU/CCw8Zx z+gN4y2Vn49QKIE8ucBFR+T009zcK7O6YT5ron/39KmnRWnrUmeXlVacQYMQWK2hpLsn us7au5xNqJliNkP7u7WY32rEeory5KjqJ0alovNEsx7JX6ABO0qqj15b81PcaCbjcPew FjvuQniWBbEVZLT+ObgUYdmQQ1/nu28sZIi/aELgNLNWVr7QUYyo65pHXCU0e3npCD8n 3lsjiSpUqON5mEa9oLc34gBCMP/Z8K7iPY/DflzZqCdyR1qmBGlqgGFyoHty3TbioRN3 qbtg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=XTUn809roTCoB2BTtCYm8H98jLsr22l6JVv0pri/D5w=; b=TvGHpxwmLDMC3MEsmRt6k7EbFEP4l4w9GrNEqs3qRDQszRXP7InASj/FumRRnqjedU O66cnwL8Cs6b7QDVDJUn8WSmsJD66gcEX6L+b+QZN+puRIMiOgiZesKWWtnNBwmGTgkC jsypHevsUCz5v1XqI+eFnYb9nfeAu8IjYocL04iosFNx+CxpmEzKsqvLAX0hxS4KOqmK MXikjyz+mfzL8HNQ4/gHl3++2dsrY9dW6Qo3KtuJMJoLDaLG4OMfTUBQboaYo77f8USv hCpjfU4m/O+d3xjxhCXaY8LlNT8YFAhlwvshvQaCVBG/IN3er9mGW68OPQdw0jdQ0Mpg Mm+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLmlj8mtkdtrUvtVxiyr2usYDPXHZ8Isnuk5ChCkpmjVXuJyWW6JaXNMTJokJVxkA== X-Received: by 10.66.27.136 with SMTP id t8mr209508pag.108.1465536096027; Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.4] ([124.171.54.106]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d24sm13922247pfb.90.2016.06.09.22.21.34 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) Subject: Re: Generation of X licensed dependent code From: Justin Mclean In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 15:21:30 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <1BBB236A-D266-42CA-8D07-6760A0639070@classsoftware.com> References: To: legal-discuss@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) archived-at: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 05:21:42 -0000 Hi, > What is reasonable notification to the user that there will be = encumbrance?=20 > I have thought of a couple of not mutually exclusive choices; > 1. NOTICE and LICENSE file generation into the project stating this. > 2. Documentation of the template. > 3. Warning text when the template is invoked. > 4. Requiring user to actively answer "Yes" on the command line that = the user is aware of the result. INAL but IMO 1,3,4 in the above not required but it would be nice to = inform the user (i.e. 2) and in this is it probably up the PMC to decide = the best way to do that. My reasoning is that: - LICENSE and NOTICE only contain information about what is bundled [1] = not dependancies. - The Category X dependancy is entirely optional [2] Thanks, Justin 1. http://www.apache.org/dev/licensing-howto.html#guiding-principle 2. http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org