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From Omar Mefire <omef...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project
Date Tue, 10 May 2016 17:38:37 GMT
Thanks Alex,
I'll use this and do something similar for Apache Cordova and submit it for
review.

Omar Mefire,


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:

> This is not an official answer, but back in 2013, Apache Flex wanted to
> track a little bit of information about our user's use of our Installer.
> We ended up with a footer (that isn't hidden by scrollbars) in our UI with
> the words:
> "Anonymous usage statistics will be collected in accordance with our
> privacy policy."  And when you click on the words, it takes you to this
> privacy policy page [1].
>
> Maybe you can use something like this.
>
> HTH,
> -Alex
>
> [1] http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html
>
>
> From: Omar Mefire <omefire@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:46 AM
> To: "private@cordova.apache.org" <private@cordova.apache.org>, "
> legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project
>
> ping ...
> Any updates regarding this ?
>
> The development of this feature is almost complete and the missing part is
> the privacy notice.
>
> See the PR here for implementation details:
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/pull/247
>
> Omar Mefire,
>
>
> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Omar Mefire <omefire@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have recently started working on the telemetry inclusion into Cordova
>> and would like to request help from Apache Legal with drafting the privacy
>> notice.
>>
>> Here is the detailed telemetry proposal:
>> - https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43
>> - https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43/files
>>
>> Omar Mefire,
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Parashuram <n.parashuram@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree that there should be an opt-out method.
>>>
>>>
>>> Parashuram
>>> http://nparashuram.com
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Tommy Williams <tommy@devgeeks.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "From my non-lawyer point of view, what's important is to make sure
>>>> users are informed of what's happening, and can opt out of it.”
>>>>
>>>> This x 1000
>>>>
>>>> As a staunch privacy advocate, I would be very uncomfortable collecting
>>>> data without allowing users to opt out.
>>>>
>>>> - tommy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3 November 2015 at 09:08:54, Parashuram (n.parashuram@gmail.com)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> David,
>>>>
>>>> Would you happen to have links to discussions of threads in the Flex or
>>>> CloudStack projects where this is discussed ?
>>>>
>>>> I think we should atleast have a privacy policy, and let users opt out
>>>> of collecting data. The main purpose of this data is to understand the
>>>> places where users experience most errors, or the commands that are most
>>>> unused in our Cordova tooling. Cordova has a NodeJS based command line
>>>> interface and this is where the data would be collected. We have not yet
>>>> decided on where this data is stored or who controls it.
>>>>
>>>> Before we looked into those questions, I first wanted to check if it
>>>> was even ok for us to collect this information. Now that I understand that
>>>> Apache does not have policies against collecting data, I think that it
>>>> would make sense for Cordova committers to get back and answer the
>>>> questions like
>>>> - where the data lives - I am guessing this would be some Apache server
>>>> - who can access this data - I think at the minimum, the apache
>>>> committers and PMC would be able to access the data. We should discuss this
>>>> in the community and see if it makes sense to let everyone be able to read
>>>> this data, since this is aggregated and anonymous anyway.
>>>> - Who controls the data - this should be the committers and the PMC,
>>>> but will also be discussed in the community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Parashuram
>>>> http://nparashuram.com
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Flex folks connect some (very limited) telemetry.
>>>>> The CloudStack folks are discussing it and working on it.
>>>>> But I am unaware of any data collection policies from a foundation
>>>>> perspective
>>>>>
>>>>> My personal questions would be:
>>>>> * Where does the data live / how is it collected
>>>>> * Who has access to it
>>>>> * Who controls the data
>>>>>
>>>>> --David
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The Apache Cordova project currently has a command line interface
>>>>> that our
>>>>> > users use to create and developer multi-platform mobile
>>>>> applications. The
>>>>> > Apache Cordova community has been working on many features to make
>>>>> the user
>>>>> > experience better. Currently however, we have no way of knowing
which
>>>>> > features we implement are used by users and which are not. We also
>>>>> do not
>>>>> > have good data about the typical commands that fail or the
>>>>> situations under
>>>>> > which they fail.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > To make better informed decisions, one proposal that the community
>>>>> was
>>>>> > discussing was about adding some sort of telemetry that reports
back
>>>>> data.
>>>>> > This data would totally anonymous, aggregated and only used for
data
>>>>> driven
>>>>> > decision making when deciding on implementing new features. I wanted
>>>>> to
>>>>> > understand if there are any Apache policies around telemetry. I
am
>>>>> not aware
>>>>> > of other projects that collect telemetry, and wanted some guidance
>>>>> on how to
>>>>> > approach the problem.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > It would be great if you could point us to resources, or help us
>>>>> understand
>>>>> > best practices on collecting telemetry data for an Apache project.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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