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From Omar Mefire <omef...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project
Date Thu, 12 May 2016 22:10:59 GMT
Here's what we ended up with:

-
https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/blob/0d5f185c45f11a46e3dc5b720e23d4b38a40779a/www/privacy/index.md

Reviews of this would be appreciated.

Otherwise, we'll use this as our privacy policy.

Thanks!

Omar Mefire,


On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Omar Mefire <omefire@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Alex,
> I'll use this and do something similar for Apache Cordova and submit it
> for review.
>
> Omar Mefire,
>
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:19 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> This is not an official answer, but back in 2013, Apache Flex wanted to
>> track a little bit of information about our user's use of our Installer.
>> We ended up with a footer (that isn't hidden by scrollbars) in our UI with
>> the words:
>> "Anonymous usage statistics will be collected in accordance with our
>> privacy policy."  And when you click on the words, it takes you to this
>> privacy policy page [1].
>>
>> Maybe you can use something like this.
>>
>> HTH,
>> -Alex
>>
>> [1] http://flex.apache.org/about-privacy.html
>>
>>
>> From: Omar Mefire <omefire@gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
>> Date: Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:46 AM
>> To: "private@cordova.apache.org" <private@cordova.apache.org>, "
>> legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: Collecting Telemetry data for Apache Cordova project
>>
>> ping ...
>> Any updates regarding this ?
>>
>> The development of this feature is almost complete and the missing part
>> is the privacy notice.
>>
>> See the PR here for implementation details:
>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/pull/247
>>
>> Omar Mefire,
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Omar Mefire <omefire@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have recently started working on the telemetry inclusion into Cordova
>>> and would like to request help from Apache Legal with drafting the privacy
>>> notice.
>>>
>>> Here is the detailed telemetry proposal:
>>> - https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43
>>> - https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/43/files
>>>
>>> Omar Mefire,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:33 AM, Parashuram <n.parashuram@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree that there should be an opt-out method.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Parashuram
>>>> http://nparashuram.com
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Tommy Williams <tommy@devgeeks.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "From my non-lawyer point of view, what's important is to make sure
>>>>> users are informed of what's happening, and can opt out of it.”
>>>>>
>>>>> This x 1000
>>>>>
>>>>> As a staunch privacy advocate, I would be very uncomfortable
>>>>> collecting data without allowing users to opt out.
>>>>>
>>>>> - tommy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 November 2015 at 09:08:54, Parashuram (n.parashuram@gmail.com)
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you happen to have links to discussions of threads in the Flex
>>>>> or CloudStack projects where this is discussed ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should atleast have a privacy policy, and let users opt out
>>>>> of collecting data. The main purpose of this data is to understand the
>>>>> places where users experience most errors, or the commands that are most
>>>>> unused in our Cordova tooling. Cordova has a NodeJS based command line
>>>>> interface and this is where the data would be collected. We have not
yet
>>>>> decided on where this data is stored or who controls it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before we looked into those questions, I first wanted to check if it
>>>>> was even ok for us to collect this information. Now that I understand
that
>>>>> Apache does not have policies against collecting data, I think that it
>>>>> would make sense for Cordova committers to get back and answer the
>>>>> questions like
>>>>> - where the data lives - I am guessing this would be some Apache server
>>>>> - who can access this data - I think at the minimum, the apache
>>>>> committers and PMC would be able to access the data. We should discuss
this
>>>>> in the community and see if it makes sense to let everyone be able to
read
>>>>> this data, since this is aggregated and anonymous anyway.
>>>>> - Who controls the data - this should be the committers and the PMC,
>>>>> but will also be discussed in the community.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Parashuram
>>>>> http://nparashuram.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Nalley <david@gnsa.us> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Flex folks connect some (very limited) telemetry.
>>>>>> The CloudStack folks are discussing it and working on it.
>>>>>> But I am unaware of any data collection policies from a foundation
>>>>>> perspective
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My personal questions would be:
>>>>>> * Where does the data live / how is it collected
>>>>>> * Who has access to it
>>>>>> * Who controls the data
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 12:24 AM, Parashuram N <
>>>>>> panarasi@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The Apache Cordova project currently has a command line interface
>>>>>> that our
>>>>>> > users use to create and developer multi-platform mobile
>>>>>> applications. The
>>>>>> > Apache Cordova community has been working on many features to
make
>>>>>> the user
>>>>>> > experience better. Currently however, we have no way of knowing
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> > features we implement are used by users and which are not. We
also
>>>>>> do not
>>>>>> > have good data about the typical commands that fail or the
>>>>>> situations under
>>>>>> > which they fail.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > To make better informed decisions, one proposal that the community
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> > discussing was about adding some sort of telemetry that reports
>>>>>> back data.
>>>>>> > This data would totally anonymous, aggregated and only used
for
>>>>>> data driven
>>>>>> > decision making when deciding on implementing new features.
I
>>>>>> wanted to
>>>>>> > understand if there are any Apache policies around telemetry.
I am
>>>>>> not aware
>>>>>> > of other projects that collect telemetry, and wanted some guidance
>>>>>> on how to
>>>>>> > approach the problem.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It would be great if you could point us to resources, or help
us
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>> > best practices on collecting telemetry data for an Apache project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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