Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C170719B8C for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79343 invoked by uid 500); 10 Mar 2016 01:21:41 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 79177 invoked by uid 500); 10 Mar 2016 01:21:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 79156 invoked by uid 99); 10 Mar 2016 01:21:41 -0000 Received: from arcas.apache.org (HELO arcas) (140.211.11.28) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:21:41 +0000 Received: from arcas.apache.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arcas (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1143B2C1F54 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 01:21:41 +0000 (UTC) From: "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" To: legal-discuss@apache.org Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Subject: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-241) Is W3C Community Contributor License Agreement a Category-A license? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-JIRA-FingerPrint: 30527f35849b9dde25b450d4833f0394 [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-241?page=3Dcom.atlassian.= jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=3D15188= 437#comment-15188437 ]=20 Henri Yandell commented on LEGAL-241: ------------------------------------- 1/ "Who is _you_?" It does seem weird. It's a CLA, yet it also seems to be a license to users = too. The human readable summary indicates that the community is free to share, m= odify and implement the specification.=20 The CLA text defines 'you' in 12.9: 12.9. You or Your. =E2=80=9CYou,=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9Cyou,=E2=80=9D or =E2= =80=9Cyour=E2=80=9D means any person or entity who exercises copyright or p= atent rights granted under this CLA, and any person or entity that person o= r entity controls. Given that 'I' is defined (section 12.5) to be the signatory (contributor t= o W3C in this context), and 'Project' is defined to be the W3C group who ex= ecuted the CLA, it seems to imply that 'you' means the users/implementors.= =20 --- 2/ "What is the license?" As you point out, the parent document indicates that the 'Open Annotation C= ore Data Model Specification' is under this CLA. Said CLA states: "Any source code created by the Project is not subject to = this CLA, but rather subject to separate licensing terms for that source co= de". So as long as this is the specification and not the source code, it se= ems safe that the CLA is the license in effect. 3/ License Thoughts * Copyright terms: These seem within the realm of Apache's. * Patent terms: These are more complex. You give up a patent license on wha= t you contribute, and what you complete at time of contribution; but then t= here are a series of tweaks and conditions. Ones that jump out are: 12.8.3 May only cover required parts of the specification. 12.4.2 "not specified in the normative portions". The later definition = of normative indicates that=20 "optional features in the RFC 2119 sense are considered normative unles= s they are specifically identified as informative. Implementation examples = or any other material that merely illustrate the requirements of the Specif= ication are informative, rather than normative.".=20 12.8.4 "may be conditioned on a grant of a reciprocal RF license" 12.8.6 - I flat out don't understand this clause. Does 'licensor issued= by licensee for infringement of claims" mean a instituting patent litigati= on? =20 * Limited Opt-Out: A bit odd. Seems that you would not want to use anything= from the W3C until 45 days after publication. Also that you should be wary= of any specification that took more than 150 days to create. I'm hoping I'= m misunderstanding "any particular Contribution' in the last sentence as th= is seems like a very weak aspect of the CLA.=20 * Transition to W3C: This references the large 'W3C Patent Policy' and seem= s to be another way in which the patent realities of this license would not= match the Apache 2.0 text. --- Summary - a lot of legal text, very much interested in others' thoughts.=20 > Is W3C Community Contributor License Agreement a Category-A license? > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: LEGAL-241 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-241 > Project: Legal Discuss > Issue Type: Question > Reporter: Stian Soiland-Reyes > > In TAVERNA-932 we wonder if our use of https://github.com/apache/incubato= r-taverna-language/blob/0.15.0-incubating/taverna-robundle/src/main/resourc= es/ontologies/oa.rdf is considered Category-A license. > Note that the upstream file https://www.w3.org/ns/oa/oa.rdf (which must b= e fetched with {{curl -H Accept: application/rdf+xml}}) does not include fi= le-headers - I added those based on the [parent document|http://www.openann= otation.org/spec/core/20130208/index.html] which says: > {quote} > Copyright =C2=A9 2012-2013 the Contributors to the Open Annotation Core D= ata Model Specification, published by the Open Annotation Community Group u= nder the W3C Community Contributor License Agreement (CLA). A human-readabl= e summary is available. > {quote} > It is a bit unclear what the license for downstream readers actually is, = as that [W3C Community Contributor License Agreement|https://www.w3.org/com= munity/about/agreements/cla/] is mainly written for W3C Community Group con= tributors (which incidentally includes myself).=20 > However it says contributions include: > {quote} > 2. Copyrights. > 2.1. Copyright Grant. I grant to you a perpetual (for the duration of= the applicable copyright), worldwide, non-exclusive, no-charge, royalty-fr= ee, copyright license, without any obligation for accounting to me, to repr= oduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display, publicly perform, sub= license, distribute, and implement any Contribution to the full extent of m= y copyright interest in the Contribution. > 2.2. Attribution. As a condition of the copyright grant, you must inc= lude an attribution to the Specification in any derivative work you make ba= sed on the Specification. That attribution must include, at minimum, the Sp= ecification name and version number. > {quote} > which to me sounds like a permissive category-A BSD-like license. > What is the view of LEGAL? -- This message was sent by Atlassian JIRA (v6.3.4#6332) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org