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From Martijn Dashorst <martijn.dasho...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Re: wicket git commit: Update license information
Date Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:27:04 GMT
What the actual question is:

 - we have a module M that has a dependency on a EPL licensed binary A
 - we don't ship our dependencies in our source tars
 - we do publish a convenience binary for an example project E that
includes the combination of our module M and the EPL licensed binary A

Wicket is a Java multi-module project that uses Maven for the dependency
management and we just publish tar balls the source code of our project as
release artifacts, and deploy convenience binaries to Maven Central of each
sub-module. We don't ship any third-party binaries with our source tar
balls, nor publish any of those to Maven Central, *apart* from the
aforementioned examples project, that by virtue of its purpose aggregates
all dependencies of our modules.

Questions:

- Do we need to add an EPL notice to the notice of our source tars?
- Do we need to add the EPL to the license file of our source tars?
- What are the things we need to do for the example project?
- How would life be easier if we wouldn't publish the example project to
maven central?

The general tenet of these questions is:
- if we have an external dependency on a 3rd party library that is managed
outside our distribution through a package management system (i.e. Maven),
- the dependency is not optional for a given module (however users are free
to consider the module optional)
- do we need to add this 3rd party dependency's requirements for notice and
license files?

IANAL so that is why we ask here, but in my understanding, as long as we
don't actually ship the 3rd party library with our code base because is
managed externally, we don't have to add the library's notice and license
requirements.

Kindest regards,

Martijn


On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Tobias Soloschenko <
tobiassoloschenko@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I just want to forward this mail and ask if it is ok to use AspectJ as API
> within one of our sub modules?
>
> For more details see below.
>
> kind regards
>
> Tobias
>
> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------
> Betreff: Re: wicket git commit: Update license information
> Datum: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:44:44 +0100
> Von: Tobias Soloschenko <tobias.soloschenko@gmail.com>
> <tobias.soloschenko@gmail.com>
> An: dev@wicket.apache.org
>
> Hi Martijn,
>
> no the maven dependency is set to provided and wicket-metrics does not
> change any part of the code of AspectJ, so it is not redistributed. If
> users want to use wicket-metrics, they have to download AspectJ or add
> the maven dependency to their project pom.xml. wicket-metrics only uses
> the API to provide the data.
>
> As of:
> http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-b
>
> and
> https://www.eclipse.org/legal/epl-v10.html
>
> it is only required that the project contains the license information,
> but it is a good idea to forward it to legal-discuss@
>
> kind regards
>
> Tobias
>
> Am 17.03.16 um 18:33 schrieb Martijn Dashorst:
> > Does wicket-metrics include AspectJ? Do we redistribute code from
> > AspectJ within the project, or are we merely using the library at
> > build time? Or not even then?
> >
> > IANAL, but AFAIK only wicket-examples (if it were to include metrics)
> > would require this notice.
> >
> > Perhaps this is best to ask at legal-discuss@...
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 6:25 PM,  <tsoloschenko@apache.org> <tsoloschenko@apache.org>
wrote:
> >> Repository: wicket
> >> Updated Branches:
> >>    refs/heads/master e1661fe61 -> 11acfdd7c
> >>
> >>
> >> Update license information
> >>
> >> Project: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/repo
> >> Commit: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/commit/11acfdd7
> >> Tree: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/tree/11acfdd7
> >> Diff: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/diff/11acfdd7
> >>
> >> Branch: refs/heads/master
> >> Commit: 11acfdd7cd3cbfba127c0889b8ecd340b51c669b
> >> Parents: e1661fe
> >> Author: Tobias Soloschenko <tsoloschenko@apache.org> <tsoloschenko@apache.org>
> >> Authored: Thu Mar 17 18:23:55 2016 +0100
> >> Committer: Tobias Soloschenko <tsoloschenko@apache.org> <tsoloschenko@apache.org>
> >> Committed: Thu Mar 17 18:23:55 2016 +0100
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>   NOTICE                                          |  2 +-
> >>   wicket-core/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE  |  2 +-
> >>   .../src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE          |  2 +-
> >>   .../src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE          |  2 +-
> >>   .../src/main/resources/META-INF/EPL.LICENSE     | 70 ++++++++++++++++++++
> >>   .../src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE          |  9 +++
> >>   wicket-guice/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE |  2 +-
> >>   7 files changed, 84 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/blob/11acfdd7/NOTICE
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> diff --git a/NOTICE b/NOTICE
> >> index 61a0b9b..3685898 100644
> >> --- a/NOTICE
> >> +++ b/NOTICE
> >> @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
> >>   Apache Wicket
> >> -Copyright 2006-2012 The Apache Software Foundation
> >> +Copyright 2006-2016 The Apache Software Foundation
> >>
> >>   This product includes software developed at
> >>   The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
> >>
> >> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/blob/11acfdd7/wicket-core/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> diff --git a/wicket-core/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE b/wicket-core/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> index 51bed97..168af15 100644
> >> --- a/wicket-core/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> +++ b/wicket-core/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
> >>      Apache Wicket
> >> -   Copyright 2006-2011 Apache Software Foundation
> >> +   Copyright 2006-2016 Apache Software Foundation
> >>
> >>      This product includes software developed at
> >>      The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
> >>
> >> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/blob/11acfdd7/wicket-datetime/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> diff --git a/wicket-datetime/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE b/wicket-datetime/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> index 274072b..932e9eb 100644
> >> --- a/wicket-datetime/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> +++ b/wicket-datetime/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
> >>      Apache Wicket Date Time
> >> -   Copyright 2006-2011 Apache Software Foundation
> >> +   Copyright 2006-2016 Apache Software Foundation
> >>
> >>      This product includes software developed at
> >>      The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
> >>
> >> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/blob/11acfdd7/wicket-examples/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> diff --git a/wicket-examples/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE b/wicket-examples/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> index 880ab4b..c5b1958 100644
> >> --- a/wicket-examples/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> +++ b/wicket-examples/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
> >>      Apache Wicket Examples
> >> -   Copyright 2006-2011 Apache Software Foundation
> >> +   Copyright 2006-2016 Apache Software Foundation
> >>
> >>      This product includes software developed at
> >>      The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
> >>
> >> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/blob/11acfdd7/wicket-experimental/wicket-metrics/src/main/resources/META-INF/EPL.LICENSE
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> diff --git a/wicket-experimental/wicket-metrics/src/main/resources/META-INF/EPL.LICENSE
b/wicket-experimental/wicket-metrics/src/main/resources/META-INF/EPL.LICENSE
> >> new file mode 100644
> >> index 0000000..3d967ae
> >> --- /dev/null
> >> +++ b/wicket-experimental/wicket-metrics/src/main/resources/
> META-INF/EPL.LICENSE
> >> @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@
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> >> \ No newline at end of file
> >>
> >> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/blob/11acfdd7/wicket-experimental/wicket-metrics/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> diff --git a/wicket-experimental/wicket-metrics/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
b/wicket-experimental/wicket-metrics/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> new file mode 100644
> >> index 0000000..52ff7ac
> >> --- /dev/null
> >> +++ b/wicket-experimental/wicket-metrics/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> @@ -0,0 +1,9 @@
> >> +   Apache Wicket Metrics
> >> +   Copyright 2006-2016 Apache Software Foundation
> >> +
> >> +   This product includes software developed at
> >> +   The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
> >> +
> >> +   This product includes AspectJ, developed at Eclipse, and licensed
> >> +   under the Eclipse Public License. (https://eclipse.org/aspectj/).
> >> +
> >> \ No newline at end of file
> >>
> >> http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/wicket/blob/11acfdd7/wicket-guice/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> diff --git a/wicket-guice/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE b/wicket-guice/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> index fe86173..0a20490 100644
> >> --- a/wicket-guice/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> +++ b/wicket-guice/src/main/resources/META-INF/NOTICE
> >> @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
> >>      Apache Wicket
> >> -   Copyright 2006-2011 Apache Software Foundation
> >> +   Copyright 2006-2016 Apache Software Foundation
> >>
> >>      This product includes software developed at
> >>      The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/).
> >>
> >
> >
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