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From: "Dennis E. Hamilton (JIRA)" <jira@apache.org>
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Subject: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-228) Optional Java Use for Essential
 Functionality
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Dennis E. Hamilton commented on LEGAL-228:
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Thanks.  I understand that.  What is screwy is that it is dealt with as an =
optional dependency and I now gather this is an usability matter and not a =
legal/license one.

> Optional Java Use for Essential Functionality
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-228
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-228
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Dennis E. Hamilton
>
> This may not be a legal question but a practice question.
> At <http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#optional>, the use of an op=
tional dependency is explained with regard to the quality of the result whe=
n the option is not exercised.  Namely,=20
> "[I]f the component is only needed for optional features, a project can p=
rovide the user with instructions on how to obtain and install the non-incl=
uded work. Optional means that the component is not required for standard u=
se of the product or for the product to achieve a desirable level of qualit=
y. The question to ask yourself in this situation is:
> "=E2=80=A2 'Will the majority of users want to use my product without add=
ing the optional components?' "
> In the specific case of Apache OpenOffice, the Java JRE is not distribute=
d and it is not necessarily found on the platform in the form that AOO requ=
ires to exercise its optional dependencies on Java.  I don't know whether r=
edistributing a JRE is inappropriate, although I would think so.=20
> The key facet is that there are *essential* functionalities that are only=
 available if a suitable JRE is present.  Users only discover that essentia=
lity by failures that arise when attempting to exercise certain functions.
> Granting that the usability and awareness of what requires a JRE could be=
 handled better, does this dependency in AOO fall under this provision of t=
he legal FAQ?


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