Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB108181F8 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 02:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 66508 invoked by uid 500); 15 Aug 2015 02:59:32 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 66320 invoked by uid 500); 15 Aug 2015 02:59:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 66308 invoked by uid 99); 15 Aug 2015 02:59:32 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 02:59:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id AEEAFC1306 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 02:59:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.979 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.979 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-eu-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hpX9R-rsIGg2 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 02:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.197]) by mx1-eu-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-eu-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 1639920DD0 for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 02:59:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Air-McShane.local ([173.76.32.120]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MKJV2-1ZOnWr1roU-001jhO for ; Sat, 15 Aug 2015 04:59:27 +0200 Message-ID: <55CEAB0E.1070308@shanecurcuru.org> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 22:59:26 -0400 From: Shane Curcuru User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: legal-discuss@apache.org Subject: Re: on consensus, and serenity References: <129c01d0d472$881dd0c0$98597240$@rosenlaw.com> <064F8828-5BDE-4ABC-AECC-92FCE743A651@dslextreme.com> In-Reply-To: <064F8828-5BDE-4ABC-AECC-92FCE743A651@dslextreme.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:CbtwAKBOsfT0650mtItId2U6Ylt6QetZXxORAf9mL4M1MSFAB3v bhgEkHnSaAyw49vK+notopIrCCheGBnNQwSb/1LjFSJJvOe3yb9CYgPo9GLzyKuVrgXI9rE NT7T93bInMmE/Wo7n9AkKIgv9+oUQ+FxTANVWnogk2BdYD1YEYlro5F1ZNQb9dYqzW84l8X WJ+bqX345K3Ps2PcqCcEQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:i65ZX2rvBws=:UaQoIzK5083vWnBOAiKW19 BUcD0VtFbQ+sgJXuO8Pq/sZsuneFAPWrfOP8lRFTlQAoQyPzzHE6EsvadoTZPtd78fMLoxlca cip1Tvb9Fp8/G3/u07l+tF6JOLpNzPYY/sVhQqg2+M8Ge3IZSSjaeHKHIhFQd9dGnK4OhUk2U 8+NlUn4JzmyhadZMaUPKZ5HRhVyY3izKKeLifyrV4f3xxy04BnXoLdinm4y6Gy9ySRuqcWX8V fu79U2LBOGT35AGz/UxdWOhsS3tn6E4223vNg9Mg2OMnEF64GUYB8Gnk2QuJv/Iu+Hrb/C8g/ j9I4TeXboVYOIi73ydgettHUr//neHAufAlnq70OjmW6IM64KnaVwN+W/4Yab2P4id8efjVgc nhZoZ8ED+ERqckJVJCWaHjU8EXdDeGAp4bneYtx7kQouHl55uzOoB3mu58MiDCVSpLdxqMKqS nfw8+wm8jHqQMYM5R4cv5CvyjZTPS241foZw/cVbFG40eFLU7VOihQ5G6ha6uZO1vO7r+fnbn hnVT6/YwzxP3xzVCksYwQnOVBQ5TCO44BoHE1mGFFI+/FfRf+ZUrh61aRutAenq38JcTY24ux WEi14M5ZUYhjo5kgRjir2OOaaReIr574YtW002aJxDdU8EhKjkRHO67zjFVBf2oJFov9/roQr 1EAX2uhzWQ6E1NQW8r4oWn2xrw9zvKSjLlsolEp++8arWm2jIW5cmKHF29QqHSnN5a1yGNrFQ PCJWw6smDkqfBFBU On 8/11/15 4:22 PM, Ralph Goers wrote: > Larry, item 1 doesn’t seem to work. I’ve seen the same “rational” > reason posted probably a dozen times. It isn’t “I don’t want to”. It > is that we WANT to allow proprietary companies to be able to take our > software, modify it and then do whatever they want with it WITHOUT > restrictions. You have chosen to ignore this every time it has been > said. It's actually simpler than that. This is not a democracy; it's a corporation. Licensing policy for Apache projects is set by VP, Legal, who is appointed by the board. Since it's clear Jim isn't planning to change our licensing policy, many of these threads are moot in terms of influencing ASF policies. - Shane > > Ralph --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org