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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Proposal: Apache Third Party License Policy
Date Tue, 26 May 2015 12:29:44 GMT
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com>

> Sam Ruby wrote:
> > You may not have been aware that it is an ASF problem to worry about
> whether downstream distributors can make derivative works -- Free and
> proprietary alike -- of our projects, but it is true.  As such, we care
> very much about the kind of dependencies a project takes on, and the
> license of code that we bundle.
> Sam, of course I'm aware of that. That is precisely why I am requesting
> that you change that antiquated policy.
> Please remember, EVERYONE can make derivative works (free and proprietary
> alike) of Apache projects even if that software includes EPL and MPL works.
> What they can't do is to refuse to distribute derivative works of EPL and
> MPL components under their original licenses. That is a reciprocal
> requirement. But it doesn't prevent derivative works.

I don't understand what you're asking to change.

We've been distributing products that include MPL code for years. What's
the problem you're trying to solve?

> > EPL and MPL fall someplace in between.
> In between what and what?
> I've been challenged repeated here because certain GPL folks don't want
> their license interpreted this way. So if Apache changes its obsolete
> policy for every FOSS license except the GPL, I'll consider that a
> significant accomplishment. I'll wait impatiently for the lawyers who are
> trying to create a licensing exception for those GPL licensors that DO want
> their works incorporated into Apache projects.

We're not going to allow GPL, for policy reasons. What are you asking for
the other licenses? It's been lost in the multitude of threads.



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