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From Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Proposal: Apache Third Party License Policy
Date Tue, 26 May 2015 12:29:44 GMT
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com>
wrote:

> Sam Ruby wrote:
> > You may not have been aware that it is an ASF problem to worry about
> whether downstream distributors can make derivative works -- Free and
> proprietary alike -- of our projects, but it is true.  As such, we care
> very much about the kind of dependencies a project takes on, and the
> license of code that we bundle.
>
> Sam, of course I'm aware of that. That is precisely why I am requesting
> that you change that antiquated policy.
>
> Please remember, EVERYONE can make derivative works (free and proprietary
> alike) of Apache projects even if that software includes EPL and MPL works.
> What they can't do is to refuse to distribute derivative works of EPL and
> MPL components under their original licenses. That is a reciprocal
> requirement. But it doesn't prevent derivative works.
>

I don't understand what you're asking to change.

We've been distributing products that include MPL code for years. What's
the problem you're trying to solve?


>
> > EPL and MPL fall someplace in between.
>
> In between what and what?
>
> I've been challenged repeated here because certain GPL folks don't want
> their license interpreted this way. So if Apache changes its obsolete
> policy for every FOSS license except the GPL, I'll consider that a
> significant accomplishment. I'll wait impatiently for the lawyers who are
> trying to create a licensing exception for those GPL licensors that DO want
> their works incorporated into Apache projects.
>

We're not going to allow GPL, for policy reasons. What are you asking for
the other licenses? It's been lost in the multitude of threads.

>…

-g

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