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From "Lawrence Rosen" <lro...@rosenlaw.com>
Subject Amateurs and professionals
Date Sun, 17 May 2015 02:46:16 GMT
Hi Henri,


Please don't be insulted because I categorized your and others' hard volunteer work with Apache
Legal-JIRA as "amateur". I appreciated your effort, even though your JIRA actions spewed into
my Inbox all last Sunday and Monday when I was concentrating on other things, such as eliminating
the very need for most of those JIRAs in the first place. :-)  


Of all the non-lawyers I talk to here, you are the most knowledgeable and friendly that I've
met so far. I always welcome your advice and counsel.


I'm an amateur too. I used to teach computer programming at Stanford, but since I changed
careers more than 20 years ago I'm a rank amateur at that. Please don't ask me to advise any
Apache PMC on any technical decisions. 


I love mathematics and physics, but please don't ask me to actually calculate Cristoffel symbols
with any accuracy. [1] 


When I briefly joined the Apache board, at our private off-site I was asked to serve as Apache
treasurer. I told them I'd done that in small non-profits before but was too amateur to take
on financial responsibilities here with a million dollar budget mostly spent on computer infrastructure.
Another board amateur was named Treasurer, and a board amateur was made responsible for Apache
Legal Affairs. 


We have a long-time bad habit of assigning important financial and legal affairs to amateurs
here. Apache is too big and our software too valuable for that now. 


But Henri and I already have jobs, so we're not applying for those tasks.


I've said this here before to little avail, but I am still here trying to influence human


No insult intended!



"If this were legal advice it would have been accompanied by a bill."


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoffel_symbols 



From: Henri Yandell [mailto:bayard@apache.org] 
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 4:44 PM
To: ASF Legal Discuss; Lawrence Rosen
Subject: Re: Proposal: Apache Third Party License Policy


Some thoughts inline (and a pouty note that you didn't reply to my last reply :) ). 

[<LER>] <Snip from here on although answers to Henri Yandell's other questions in
that email are needed from other SPDX experts here.>

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