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Subject: Re: Spam (9.331):Re: OpenOffice GPL FUD
From: Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com>
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:07:14 -0500
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To: legal-discuss@apache.org,
 dennis.hamilton@acm.org

It's good to know that this is being discussed on dev@... I am only
subscribed to private@

> On Feb 19, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton =
<dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
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> I don't know what transpired previously on private@ oo.a.o and I won't =
be quoting from anything there elsewhere after being spanked about =
something not quite like that at another time.
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> I do want to point out that the current reanimation of this thread has =
led to discussion at dev@ oo.a.o, where it seems valuable to have, =
despite the tendency for repetition of positions, but louder, and folks =
declaring their finding it valuable. =20
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> There are some complications concerning outright removal.  (There are =
a number of internationalized versions of the page.)  The easiest thing =
to do is take the link to it off the left sidebar which is the only =
pointer to it.  I must suggest this on dev@.
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> On the page itself, which might linger to avoid broken links, I think =
Henry Yandell's suggestion might be useful, sort of one of those =
Wikipedia banners that says this isn't quite right and an improvement is =
being sought.
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> - Dennis
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:jim@jaguNET.com]=20
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:30
> To: legal-discuss@apache.org
> Subject: Spam (9.331):Re: OpenOffice GPL FUD
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> I am not sure it actually reflects the view "of the project"
> per se, but rather some outspoken individuals therein. That
> conversation is happening on the AOO private list where I
> wrote:
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>   If someone has a gripe to make, or an opinion, do it on your
>   own blog. Don't usurp the AOO site to spread your own
>   personal opinions or viewpoint.
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>   If you feel that is "sucking up" to the FSF, then, well,
>   I feel sorry for you.
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>> On Feb 19, 2015, at 11:23 AM, Henri Yandell <bayard@apache.org> =
wrote:
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>> Next step to removing would be for the note on the ASF's views to be =
a) at the top of the page and b) authored by the foundation, not the =
project.
>>=20
>> "These are the views of one Apache project, and do not represent the =
views of the Apache Software Foundation. For more information on how the =
foundation works, and why one project may have a contrary opinion, see =
<link to foundation pages>. "
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>> Hen
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>> On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) =
<Ross.Gardler@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> Thank you Jim
>>=20
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:jim@jaguNET.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 4:05 AM
>> To: legal discuss
>> Subject: Fwd: OpenOffice GPL FUD
>>=20
>> FYI
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>>> Begin forwarded message:
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>>> From: Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com>
>>> Subject: OpenOffice GPL FUD
>>> Message-Id: <F434A6DE-1165-4E27-BA6E-FD50AB3B0325@jaguNET.com>
>>> Date: February 19, 2015 at 7:04:28 AM EST
>>> To: "Bradley M. Kuhn" <bkuhn@ebb.org>
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>>> Just a quick note that recently I was made aware of the FUD =
regarding
>>> GPL that was being spread via an Apache OpenOffice page
>>> (http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_compliance.html)
>>>=20
>>> Please be assured that we are working to correct (or even
>>> remove) that page and that it does NOT represent the view of the =
ASF.
>>> In the future, if you see that sort of misrepresentation being done =
by
>>> any ASF project, don't hesitate to ping me and make me aware of it, =
so
>>> it can be nipped in the bud.
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>>> PS: Will you be attending POSSCON this year? I was hoping to
>>>   but it's at the same time as ApacheCon and so will have
>>>   to miss it. I will likely be at OSCON and some later
>>>   events so hopefully will see you soon.
>>=20
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