Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C724A10CCC for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15738 invoked by uid 500); 27 Jan 2015 11:12:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 15554 invoked by uid 500); 27 Jan 2015 11:12:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 15542 invoked by uid 99); 27 Jan 2015 11:12:15 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:12:15 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of sallykhudairi@yahoo.com designates 212.82.97.117 as permitted sender) Received: from [212.82.97.117] (HELO nm34-vm3.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com) (212.82.97.117) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:11:50 +0000 Received: from [212.82.98.55] by nm34.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2015 11:11:48 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.110] by tm8.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2015 11:11:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1047.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jan 2015 11:11:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 531973.43094.bm@omp1047.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: MEgeeQcVM1k5uRkFZxMOH4nGC9tuKcmLh0zuuP5uU1C.rblLx2KyxGNnZfZYQOr As5vJGVEjyX1ugJQsVteo.YpVptrviOp1yEzydPVhuMbf1Mf6I4q_Ztrz1006YuagahyGD4iCWhe maPzQVyPWMr2tUHIXhHAo7uNaJQ5Vi_Bx6g6rldnPxhtB1KfzxANmfP8N3vPeDRKR4ozooYXmLy4 x3D5s0iX1TtakxvhHa_LEKAir5k3fLHTqhRW4zK71vpj6NkegBZtBJxLzmth7M4PH665Mde4YoVB V4ywxnBnGSlVLRBFh0dxIJwIHtqZCfOvTxyXQ9iQYNDEExvqpoACf98Ko2xVURhY1GtJbuaJ9UC0 c1r74.EysWGEf9fzKZgbpnJMyM3R7kTpoBw6xD7HoT00aPZ37L0IOtvihy5DSdGEMgkIEiIPfbkq Fu1dkqvxNbvYRLbNHTcmlkyv8SYKwPtLltEddBE9svnbaFrcV2ZrfAn03AnoAekPP8rGeRLwqG6L _sjZv_AdOB11iz1n38lTWpYJnRiDIzGLkQEPNm2PkBFB6zL.OLwlA8wqm2Ww_BsbrwQMb0ujAoQk w_dxKOsOvIAe.4x2tUke037c2qmq.LYDlSi6NzrWYd0m9XnlpAf8WKpwWnTd03bLBXPtwGfjE7sr HR6YldpY47_PNyjHUjxUEbiLAgonZrjCXw5evqRPuSq3Ez7soS5JGyiZ_uICrWYWxaOj9KvUW81g 9tOc- Received: by 212.82.98.114; Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:11:47 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:11:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Sally Khudairi Reply-To: Sally Khudairi To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" Message-ID: <1337483247.1194046.1422357107400.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Fw: Fwd: Apache Foundation position on copyleft licenses MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1194045_1214277183.1422357107386" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org ------=_Part_1194045_1214277183.1422357107386 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello ASF Legal Committee -- I'm not sure how you handle such queries, but I thought this might be of in= terest. Please advise if=C2=A0I should be forwarding this to another channel. Kind thanks,Sally=C2=A0 =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D=20 vox +1 617 921 8656 skype sallykhudairi ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Anthony Towns Date: Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:19 AM Subject: Apache Foundation position on copyleft licenses To: human-response@apache.org Hi! I was at Bradley Kuhn's talk at linux.conf.au 2015 last week, and was struc= k by a quote he attributed to the Apache Software Foundation which compared= the SFLC's efforts to enforce GPL compliance with the BSA's campaigns on s= oftware piracy, and then went on to call the SFLC worse. The remarks and sl= ide can be found at approximately the 20 minute mark in the recording on yo= utube: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-ItFjEG3LaA#t=3D19m52s Doing a google search for the quote, I found a hit on the Apache OpenOffice= .org website: =C2=A0=C2=A0http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_compliance.html which although it's a (somewhat major) project rather than the apache site = itself, doesn't give any indication that it's authored or authorised by som= eone other than the Apache Foundation.=C2=A0 I couldn't find any indication via web.archive.org that that page predated = Apache's curation of the OpenOffice.org project (I wondered if it might hav= e been something Oracle would write, rather than the Apache Foundation).=E2= =80=8B Doing some more searching, I found a svn log that seems to indicate = it's primarily authored by Rob Weir with minor edits by Andrea Pescetti (wh= o I understand is the VP for Apache OpenOffice): =C2=A0 =E2=80=8Bhttp://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/cont= ent/why/why_compliance.mdtext?view=3Dlog Is this really an accurate representation of the Apache Foundation's curren= t stance on copyleft licenses, the GPL and the SFLC's enforcement efforts? Cheers,aj --=20 Anthony Towns ------=_Part_1194045_1214277183.1422357107386 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
He= llo ASF Legal Committee --

I'm not sure how you handle such queries,= but I thought this might be of interest.

Please advise if I sh= ould be forwarding this to another channel.

Kind thanks,
Sally
 

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From: Anthony Towns <aj@erisian.com.au>
Date: Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:19 AM
Subject: Apache Foundation po= sition on copyleft licenses
To: human-response@apache.or= g


=
Hi!

I was at Bradley Ku= hn's talk at linux.conf.au 2015 last week, and was struck by a quote he attri= buted to the Apache Software Foundation which compared the SFLC's efforts t= o enforce GPL compliance with the BSA's campaigns on software piracy, and t= hen went on to call the SFLC worse. The remarks and slide can be found at a= pproximately the 20 minute mark in the recording on youtube:


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Doing a google search for the qu= ote, I found a hit on the Apache OpenOffice.org website:
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which although it's a (somewhat major) project rathe= r than the apache site itself, doesn't give any indication that it's author= ed or authorised by someone other than the Apache Foundation. <= /div>

I couldn't find any indication via web.archive.org that that page pr= edated Apache's curation of the OpenOffice.org project (I wondered if it mi= ght have been something Oracle would write, rather than the Apache Foundati= on).
=E2=80=8B Doing so= me more searching, I found a svn log that seems to indicate it's primarily = authored by Rob Weir with minor edits by Andrea Pescetti (who I understand = is the VP for Apache OpenOffice):

  =E2=80=8B
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/= ooo-site/trunk/content/why/why_compliance.mdtext?view=3Dlog

Is this really an accurate representation of the Apache Foundation's cur= rent stance on copyleft licenses, the GPL and the SFLC's enforcement effort= s?

Cheers,
aj
--
Anthony Towns <aj@erisian.com.au>



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