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From Jim Jagielski <...@jaguNET.com>
Subject Re: Apache Foundation position on copyleft licenses
Date Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:38:12 GMT
<With my VP Legal hat on>

FWIW, I understand the motivation behind the statement and even
the "somewhat overboard" take on copyleft: TDF and LO is, after
all, who this is directed to and it is a direct response to their
oft-made claims that permissive licenses are bad. In fact, I
would even claim that as much bad blood exists between AOO and
LO for Oracle "giving" OO to Apache, and not LO, there is also
the "religious" licensing aspect.

HOWEVER, the POV expressed does NOT reflect the POV of
the ASF itself, and so it must be *clearly* stated that
the page is the viewpoint either of the AOO PMC itself (and
only the PMC) or a specific individual.

Please make the required changes asap.

> On Jan 28, 2015, at 4:03 AM, RA Stehmann <anwalt@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> wrote:
> Hello,
> first the diclaimer: I'm a fellow of the Free Software Foundation
> Europe, member of the ELN and the germanophone (DACH-) team of the FSFE.
> Second: I have become an intial committer of Apache OpenOffice not
> because I think the ASLv2 the best or even a good license for Free Software.
> But I have seen the importance of an office suite, which is fit for
> professionell use, for the improvement of Free Software. And OpenOffice
> is IMO the best office suite for that purpose.
> So I became an intial committer despite the copyleftless license.
> Third: I respect Rob's POV. It's a strong and clear meaning and a good
> statement tp start a discussion about copyleft.
> But fourth: I'm a little bit unhappy to see this as an official
> statement of our project. It's not our job to make an apologetic
> statement for copyleftless licenses. It's not productive to bring in the
> "(flame) war" between supporters and opponents of copyleft or
> copyleftlessness into our project.
> I think it's possible to illustrate the advantages of a copyleftless
> license for a special kind of companies (the companies, which develop
> software) "sine ira et studio" and without meeting trouble halfway.
> Kind regards
> Michael

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