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Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:10:01 +0200
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Subject: Re: ASF Terms and Conditions
From: Pierre Smits <pierre.smits@gmail.com>
To: legal-discuss@apache.org
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Rob, All,

The iCLA is related to mailing lists. Mailing lists are the primary means
of communication between community members of a ASF project, Foundation
Members and Officers. Please read the terms of the iCLA again.

While the iCLA states that the Work is the subject of the grant of
copyright licence, it doesn't state that personal details are part of the
Work. I doubt if that could be held up.

Furthermore it is not about whether individuals should use the email
equivalent of burner phones for participating in communications with other
ASF community members, but whether the ASF is doing its utmost and the
right thing regarding the personal information of its community members.
The ASF is also bound by privacy laws and equivalents of data protection
acts.
Apart from that, communicating through such equivalent would surely hamper
community building, personal relation building and more.

Even without officially consent (e.g through submission of an iCLA) ,
community members can participate. Again, it is solicitated. Not enforced.

Regards,


Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
http://www.orrtiz.com

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Rob, All,<div><br></div><div>The iCLA is related to mailin=
g lists. Mailing lists are the primary means of communication between commu=
nity members of a ASF project, Foundation Members and Officers. Please read=
 the terms of the iCLA again.</div>
<div><br></div><div>While the iCLA states that the Work is the subject of t=
he grant of copyright licence, it doesn&#39;t state that personal details a=
re part of the Work. I doubt if that could be held up.</div><div><br></div>
<div>Furthermore it is not about whether individuals should use the email e=
quivalent of burner phones for participating in communications with other A=
SF community members, but whether the ASF is doing its utmost and the right=
 thing regarding the personal information of its community members. The ASF=
 is also bound by privacy laws and equivalents of data protection acts.=C2=
=A0</div>
<div>Apart from that, communicating through such equivalent would surely ha=
mper community building, personal relation building and more.</div><div><br=
></div><div>Even without officially consent (e.g through submission of an i=
CLA) , community members can participate. Again, it is solicitated. Not enf=
orced.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 40=
px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><br></div></blockquote></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Pierre Smits<div><br>=
</div>
<div><b><font size=3D"4"><a href=3D"http://www.orrtiz.com" target=3D"_blank=
">ORRTIZ.COM</a></font></b></div><div><font>Services &amp; Solutions for Cl=
oud-</font></div><div><font>Based Manufacturing, Professional</font></div><=
div>
<font>Services and Retail &amp; Trade</font></div><div><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.orrtiz.com/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.orrtiz.com</a></div></div></div=
>
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