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From Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Asking on users@ for release candidate testers
Date Mon, 30 Jun 2014 12:03:11 GMT

please don't get me wrong, but the suggested answers here do bring a
tremendous overhead which is not needed.

As far as I understand, dev@ is the list where the request to test rc
artefacts should be sent to. The dev@ list is intended to do all the work
on development and so is to test rc candidates. Imho there is no need to
introduce more ml's. The risk that developers are kept away to help or test
rc's is out of my experience high.

I would like to understand why it could be problematic to distribute rc
artefacts from ASF hardware. Or did I misunderstand that point in the
discussion above?

Furthermore I would like to understand better, why people could be scared
by a dev@ list? Who is 'people' here :) ?

Again, maybe I do miss some important points. If so, I would be happy to
understand it better :). Otherwise I suggest to send the rc artefacts to
dev@ and ask for testing.



On 30 June 2014 12:11, Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.connolly@gmail.com>

> Why not just set up a mailing list for testing releases and that way you
> can encourage users to sign up as "testers" that way they are not the
> general public.
> For the artifacts to be distributed from ASF hardware (other that peoples
> ~username sites AFAIR) then they need to be voted on and released.
> You could distribute them from non-ASF hardware, but then the people
> creating those binaries now have to *personally* worry about whether they
> are covered in the event that a virus/trojan was bundled in the binary, etc
> as the binary is being distributed from *their* hardware (or from their
> ~username site on apache.org)
> So if the dev@ list is too scary, I would just set up a qa or
> release-testers list. That way you can call them out and give credit for
> their assistance when the release is cut, and you can safely publish links
> in that list.
> On 30 June 2014 10:44, Paul Libbrecht <paul@hoplahup.net> wrote:
>> Alex,
>> get the folks to discuss RC on some other place than the dev list… people
>> are scared by dev lists.
>> IRC or Jira, or even a single mail thread in the users list, are fairly
>> constrained places where you wouldn't scare people to come, I think.
>> paul
>> On 30 juin 2014, at 08:59, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>> > Today's debate is about whether Apache Flex can email its users@ ML
>> and ask folks there to help us test the current release candidate.  I think
>> current release policy says no.  But is there a loophole where we can email
>> users@ and ask folks to join dev@ in order to find out how to test the
>> RC?
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Andy Wenk
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