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From Brian LeRoux...@brian.io>
Subject Re: Clarification about D&O insurance and bad acts
Date Tue, 27 May 2014 21:22:35 GMT
We could both wax hypothetical about the merit of humans and error
proneness. My point is whatever is work-in-progress is a daily
responsibility and not something to be left for the last minute check by
others. Ever.


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com>wrote:

> Brian, you are absolutely correct. However, SVN is not the release and so
> having reviewed commits is not the same as having reviewed the release. In
> a well run project where people are reviewing code commits there should be
> no problem. But people make errors and you would be surprised how often
> those errors slip through.
>
> Furthermore, since I (as a committer) cannot guarantee that I reviewed
> every change to every file between release a and release b I cannot, as a
> PMC member, be certain that the necessary files are present and correct. If
> I were to vote +1 without having reviewed the release then my vote would be
> worthless when it comes to demonstrating that our policy has been followed
> for that release.
>
> Ross
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> On 27 May 2014 10:25, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>
>> From my perspective this is a daily requirement of a responsible
>> committer. That final check isn't hurting anything but it is not even
>> remotely acceptable for a committer to not be constantly vigilant when
>> landing commits to our source.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>
>>> > In my mind (and I am not a lawyer so that means almost nothing in
>>> these situations) the requirement to have 3 PMC members indicate that, to
>>> the best of their knowledge, the release is compliant with the policy is
>>> sufficient.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Leaving my lawyer hat off for a bit, it seems so to me too. I'm not
>>> worried. I wasn't even worried about that when I served on the board. /Larry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ross Gardler [mailto:rgardler@opendirective.com]
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2014 8:08 PM
>>> *To:* legal-discuss@apache.org; Larry Rosen
>>> *Subject:* Re: Clarification about D&O insurance and bad acts
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
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>>>
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