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From Jim Jagielski <...@jaguNET.com>
Subject Re: Continuous release review
Date Fri, 30 May 2014 11:40:00 GMT

On May 30, 2014, at 1:51 AM, Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jagunet.com> wrote:
>> FWIW, my response could be:
>> 
>>  You can pound your head in the sand, expecting that every release
>>  does not need to be downladed, compiled, tested by every PMC member
>>  casting a +1, or simply accept the idea that, yes, an automated and
>>  potentially buggy CI process is no substitute for a healthy, engaged
>>  and responsible PMC.
> 
> If I set up CI and it runs extended tests for an RC on 10 different platforms
> I don't have and I pore over the logs and doublecheck the checksums... I'd
> like to think most people would see that as "engaged" and "responsible".
> 

Of course... I was simply turning the argument around as it were.

> Even if a CI rig happens to be buggy, the potential failure modes are
> perfectly manageable in the context of releasing.
> 
> I'd still download every source package and diff the expanded content against
> an export from version control for security and other reasons.  But as far as
> building and testing release candidates, CI gets the job done better with less
> effort -- freeing up time for the community to focus on other tasks.
> 
> Marvin Humphrey
> 
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