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From Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org>
Subject Re: ICLA US Government
Date Fri, 21 Mar 2014 19:36:53 GMT
+1 to what Doug said below.
I'm also of the mindset that I am not sure you
can continue to contribute without being able to
sign an ICLA..it goes against the meritocracy of
the ASF b/c you should be recognized for your contributions
and we don't have "front people" that contribute for others -
we tear through those weeds and empower those contributing.

Cheers,
Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Cutting <cutting@apache.org>
Reply-To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
Date: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:31 PM
To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
Cc: "private@commons.apache.org" <private@commons.apache.org>
Subject: Re: ICLA US Government

>On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Evan Ward <evan.ward@nrl.navy.mil>
>wrote:
>> Sorry for the slow reply. I've asked our legal department to reconsider
>> the ICLA in light of our discussion here.
>
>You don't need your employer's permission to sign an ICLA.  The
>agreement is between you as an individual and the ASF.  It outlasts
>and is independent of your employment.
>
>You need your employer's permission to contribute work they've paid
>for to the ASF.  Whether you've signed an ICLA or not, the permission
>is the same.  Without the ICLA you're submitting under the Apache
>license, which has the same intent as the ICLA.
>
>> Otherwise I'm ready to throw in the towel. I think we all agree that not
>> signing the ICLA does not prevent me from continuing to make public
>> domain contributions.
>
>We do not all agree on this point.  If you really cannot sign an ICLA
>then you should probably not make contributions either.  However I
>think everyone here but you agrees that you can in fact both sign the
>ICLA and contribute if your employer desires you to contribute your
>work to Apache.
>
>Doug
>
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