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From "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: ICLA US Government
Date Thu, 06 Mar 2014 21:34:47 GMT
+1 that is very much my understanding as well.


Cheers,
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Fontana <rfontana@redhat.com>
Reply-To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
Date: Thursday, March 6, 2014 1:32 PM
To: "legal-discuss@apache.org" <legal-discuss@apache.org>
Cc: "private@commons.apache.org" <private@commons.apache.org>
Subject: Re: ICLA US Government

>I'd redraft that section 2. In any case I understand the longstanding ASF
>policy is 'use our standard CLAs, no special cases'.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>> I got into programming for the tricky logic problems. Look like I should
>> have been a lawyer. :)
>> 
>> For another open source project that uses the Apache License and ICLAs,
>> I joined using a modified ICLA (attached). If we s/CS/Apache/ and
>> s/Orekit/Commons/ would it be acceptable? I think it clears up the
>> worldwide issue and explicitly states "public domain with no license".
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Evan
>> 
>> On Thu 06 Mar 2014 03:46:31 PM EST, Richard Fontana wrote:
>> >
>> > But the point is that US government works for which copyright is
>> > excluded domestically may not have the same exclusion as to copies of
>> > those same works published in other countries.
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > True, but public domain is a concept in all modern copyright systems.
>> >
>> > Moral right treatments differ, but I don't think that the Apache
>> > ICLA addresses that anyway.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Jim Jagielski <jim@jagunet.com
>> > <mailto:jim@jagunet.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > We also need to recall that US Copyright Law is not the
>> > sole one in existence ;)
>> >
>> > On Mar 6, 2014, at 2:36 AM, Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com
>> > <mailto:ted.dunning@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > You may not be the copyright owner, but you can grant a
>> > license to public domain works.
>> > >
>> > > As can I or anyone else.
>> > >
>> > > The fact that the the licensee doesn't need the license is
>> > irrelevant.
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> 
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