Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 256C210B6B for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14441 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jan 2014 01:44:06 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 14211 invoked by uid 500); 21 Jan 2014 01:44:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 14203 invoked by uid 99); 21 Jan 2014 01:44:05 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:44:05 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=5.0 tests=FSL_NEW_HELO_USER,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of craig.russell@oracle.com designates 156.151.31.81 as permitted sender) Received: from [156.151.31.81] (HELO userp1040.oracle.com) (156.151.31.81) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:43:56 +0000 Received: from ucsinet22.oracle.com (ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s0L1hYnS027188 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:43:34 GMT Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.5+Sun/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s0L1hX45022908 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:43:34 GMT Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s0L1hX8T022126 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 01:43:33 GMT Received: from [10.0.0.7] (/50.152.206.12) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:43:33 -0800 Subject: Re: Using 3rd party code under Creative Commons Attribution-Non-Commercial-Share Alike 3.0 Germany license Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-28--355453076 From: Craig L Russell In-Reply-To: <4534192710722235644@gmail297201516> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:43:27 -0800 Message-Id: <8F39F136-55E4-428F-8D82-2E5B0D07D25D@oracle.com> References: <4534192710722235644@gmail297201516> To: legal-discuss@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) X-Source-IP: ucsinet22.oracle.com [156.151.31.94] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-28--355453076 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 20, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Kevan Miller wrote: > On Tue Jan 14 2014 at 1:24:38 AM, Lewis John Mcgibbney = wrote: > Hi Folks, > Hopefully a quick message to inquire about the suitability of using = 3rd party code licensed under the above license [0] within an Apache = project. > I have never used CC licensed code within an Apache product before so = one thing that concerns me is the textual content "You may not use the = material for commercial purposes."... and what would happen if someone = were to then use the Apache product in a commercial setting? > Can anyone help me out to fully understand the license compatibility = issues here please? >=20 > In general, license information can be found here -- = http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html >=20 > I don't see a formal classification there (or in previous discussions = on legal-discuss) for CC-NC-SA. IMO, it's not acceptable for inclusion = within an ASF project -- because of the non-commercial restriction. Yes. For an Apache project, NC is a non-starter. Craig >=20 > --kevan Craig L Russell Architect, Oracle http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! --Apple-Mail-28--355453076 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Tue Jan 14 2014 at 1:24:38 AM, Lewis John = Mcgibbney <lewis.mcgibbney@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
Hi Folks,
Hopefully a quick = message to inquire about the suitability of using 3rd party code = licensed under the above license [0] within an Apache = project.
I have never used CC licensed code within an Apache = product before so one thing that concerns me is the textual content "You = may not use the material for commercial purposes."... and what would = happen if someone were to then use the Apache product in a commercial = setting?
Can anyone help me out to fully understand the license = compatibility issues here = please?

In = general, license information can be found here -- http://www.apache.org/l= egal/resolved.html

I don't see a formal classification there (or in = previous discussions on legal-discuss) for CC-NC-SA. IMO, it's not = acceptable for inclusion within an ASF project -- because of the = non-commercial restriction.

Yes. For an = Apache project, NC is a = non-starter.

Craig

--kevan

http://db.apache.org/jdo

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