Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E8161017E for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 03:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47016 invoked by uid 500); 5 Dec 2013 03:19:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-legal-discuss-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 46486 invoked by uid 500); 5 Dec 2013 03:19:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact legal-discuss-help@apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: legal-discuss@apache.org List-Id: Delivered-To: mailing list legal-discuss@apache.org Received: (qmail 46479 invoked by uid 99); 5 Dec 2013 03:19:31 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:19:31 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-5.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of rfontana@redhat.com designates 209.132.183.28 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.132.183.28] (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (209.132.183.28) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 03:19:24 +0000 Received: from int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.24]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rB53J2sa025666 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 4 Dec 2013 22:19:02 -0500 Received: from berio (vpn-228-111.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.228.111]) by int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id rB53J0F8021292; Wed, 4 Dec 2013 22:19:00 -0500 Received: by berio (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:19:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 22:19:00 -0500 From: Richard Fontana To: legal-discuss@apache.org, lrosen@rosenlaw.com Subject: Re: New versions of CC licenses Message-ID: <20131205031900.GA19718@redhat.com> References: <12a701ceed29$db0e69c0$912b3d40$@rosenlaw.com> <01a601cef121$81169a40$8343cec0$@rosenlaw.com> <021601cef154$3a33e730$ae9bb590$@rosenlaw.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <021601cef154$3a33e730$ae9bb590$@rosenlaw.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.24 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 04:52:07PM -0800, Lawrence Rosen wrote: > Jeffrey Thompson wrote: > > > There is no general copyright principle that says that a licensee has > > to pass on all rights that it received from its licensor. If you can provide > > a cite to one, please do. > > How does IBM avoid passing on those rights? I believe Jeffrey is correct about general principle, but the issue depends on the specific license, does it not? It is not clear to me where in the Apache License 2.0 permission is granted to a licensee to pass on fewer than all the rights it received from its licensor as to the work which the licensor licensed. (Or maybe I should say the better interpretation of the Apache License 2.0 seems to be that it does not.) - Richard --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: legal-discuss-unsubscribe@apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: legal-discuss-help@apache.org