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From "Lawrence Rosen" <lro...@rosenlaw.com>
Subject RE: New versions of CC licenses
Date Sat, 07 Dec 2013 16:41:22 GMT
Sam, thanks for finding that blog post [1]. Here's the final sentence of that post:


For the advantage of all users, I encourage everyone interested in working on the OpenOffice
codebase to draw his own conclusions. Mine are clear; help us at Apache or be so kind to release
it on Apache, too. That's the way to reach the broadest possible user base for your feature.
A lot of users will thank you for it :-)


I am delighted to read this. The notion that our contributors would also want to cooperate
with other non-Apache projects by contributing to both is one of the blessings of the open
source development paradigm.  And because /that contributor/ gave /his contribution/ to /both/
Apache and LibreOffice, there is no license incompatibility for us or LibreOffice to worry
about. This situation is simple to analyze and has nothing to do with the issue we're now


Note also that this blog post isn't an official Apache announcement that our Apache License
can be ignored by LibreOffice. The comments on that blog post ["Great work" and "this is cool"]
have no relationship to Apache Foundation policy or licensing requirements.




[1] https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/good_news_libreoffice_is_integrating


Lawrence Rosen

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From: Sam Ruby [mailto:rubys@intertwingly.net] 
Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 8:26 AM
To: Legal Discuss; Lawrence Rosen
Subject: Re: New versions of CC licenses


On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Lawrence Rosen <lrosen@rosenlaw.com> wrote:

Sam Ruby wrote:

> I'm having trouble reconciling this with what the LibreOffice 

> community does (with our blessing!).  Note that there are no

> mentions at all of Apache on either of the following pages:

Why would we have blessed that? Our license explicitly requires of everyone: "You must give
any other recipients of the Work or Derivative Works a copy of this License; and...." This
is not so onerous that LibreOffice can ignore it.


Apache gives licenses, not blessings.


I may have been loose with my words, but the ASF OpenOffice project publicly posted that they
were happy about this occurring, and why:





- Sam Ruby

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