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Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 22:54:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Philippe Le Hegaret (JIRA)" <jira@apache.org>
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Subject: [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-179) Include CC-BY as an Apache-approved
 third party license
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Philippe Le Hegaret commented on LEGAL-179:
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This comment is only intended as a clarification regarding the use of CC-BY by the W3C.

In May 2011, the W3C Advisory Committee rejected 3 options proposed by the W3C PSIG for the document license applicable to the HTML 5.0 specification. In November 2011, the Director declared a lack of consensus and kept the W3C Document license as-is. However, as proven by the formal objection raised during the review of the HTML Charter, the matter is still an unresolved issue and the Director approved to conduct the HTML experimentation to allow developers to bring more specifications to W3C, without resulting in confusion in the Web ecosystem. 

The copyrights of HTML 5.0 and HTML 5.1 specifications produced by the HTML Working Group are only licensed under the W3C Document License. This was the case before, still remains the case, and there is plan for an HTML6 at the moment. The HTML Working Group may publish extension specification under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License (CC-BY) as well as the W3C Document License (Dual License). If there is an objection the group must not adopt the Dual License for that extension.

The HTML Working Group published its first extension using the Dual License on Tuesday:
  http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-html-ruby-extensions-20131022/

No objections were received:
 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Oct/0047.html


> Include CC-BY as an Apache-approved third party license
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-179
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-179
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Lawrence Rosen
>
> W3C Director Tim Berners-Lee has just approved the use of CC-BY as the license for the HTML Working Group and as an experiment to determine whether to use that license for other W3C specifications. Since Apache members participate in HTML development and use that W3C specification in our projects, we should add CC-BY to the Apache list of approved third-party licenses.
> /Larry
> ********** Here is what the W3C announcement said:
> "Based on extensive discussions, the Director has decided to pursue the experiment with CC-BY. The Director's view is that:
>    * Despite concerns from some developers that it is not sufficiently
>      liberal, CC-BY satisfies the key requirement of permitting the
>      creation of derivative works.
>    * A license with no attribution requirement, such as CC0, would
>      not support other important W3C and community aims, as it could
>      contribute to confusion rather than interoperability of the Web
>      platform.


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