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From "Sam Ruby (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-179) Include CC-BY as an Apache-approved third party license
Date Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:04:42 GMT

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Sam Ruby commented on LEGAL-179:
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> Sam Ruby previously objected to CC-BY at W3C when he was a leader of the HTML 5 working
group. 

That is incorrect.  Furthermore, I remain co-chair of the HTML working group.  I encourage
you to read the current HTML Charter:

http://www.w3.org/2013/09/html-charter.html#documentlicense

> Arguably, any Apache project that implements HTML 6 will need a license to its specification.

First, there are no plans to license HTML 6 under CC-BY.  Meanwhile, HTML 5 remains under
the W3 Document License.  HTML 6 remains hypothetical.  There are no plans to release HTML
5.1 or any later version of HTML under any license other that the HTML Document License. 
Even if there were, we wouldn't need such a more rights to such a license than we do to the
HTML Document License today.

Unless there is a specific reason why a specific PMC needs this -- and a part of that reason
would either be to identify why CC-BY needs to be handled differently than the W3 Document
License OR a parallel request for the W3 Document License -- I intend to close this JIRA issue
as WONTFIX.

> Include CC-BY as an Apache-approved third party license
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-179
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-179
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Lawrence Rosen
>
> W3C Director Tim Berners-Lee has just approved the use of CC-BY as the license for the
HTML Working Group and as an experiment to determine whether to use that license for other
W3C specifications. Since Apache members participate in HTML development and use that W3C
specification in our projects, we should add CC-BY to the Apache list of approved third-party
licenses.
> /Larry
> ********** Here is what the W3C announcement said:
> "Based on extensive discussions, the Director has decided to pursue the experiment with
CC-BY. The Director's view is that:
>    * Despite concerns from some developers that it is not sufficiently
>      liberal, CC-BY satisfies the key requirement of permitting the
>      creation of derivative works.
>    * A license with no attribution requirement, such as CC0, would
>      not support other important W3C and community aims, as it could
>      contribute to confusion rather than interoperability of the Web
>      platform.



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