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From "Henri Yandell (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-179) Include CC-BY as an Apache-approved third party license
Date Wed, 02 Oct 2013 04:16:24 GMT

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Henri Yandell commented on LEGAL-179:
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Thanks Larry.

Personally I think CC-BY is a good choice for a spec. It would be great to see the W3C declare
how they intend particular clauses to apply to their spec (the derivative work and modification
ones jump to mind). I like something that says 'implementations are derivative works, thus
by virtue of 3b you have to identify when you don't adhere to the specification'. You could
imagine being in Browser X and click the About button to see a list of unsupported HTML7 features.

For the credited individual piece, I'm thinking less of the details about the implemented
specs and more about people's desire to eradicate their name from the internet. This gives
me a license based way to tell Apache to not only remove my name from the current code, but
from all archived versions. I doubt it would be an issue in this case as any name listed in
the W3C spec is going to be so plastered over the internet that infocide is a pipedream :)

So non-binding +1 from me.

Related question - given that spec licenses are usually hugely worried about ensuring there
are frand patent clauses (or not as the case may be), is there a patent story here too? I
don't see that nothing being stated around them would stop us implementing, but it's curious
not to see a spec license with lots of custom patent text.


> Include CC-BY as an Apache-approved third party license
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-179
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-179
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Lawrence Rosen
>
> W3C Director Tim Berners-Lee has just approved the use of CC-BY as the license for the
HTML Working Group and as an experiment to determine whether to use that license for other
W3C specifications. Since Apache members participate in HTML development and use that W3C
specification in our projects, we should add CC-BY to the Apache list of approved third-party
licenses.
> /Larry
> ********** Here is what the W3C announcement said:
> "Based on extensive discussions, the Director has decided to pursue the experiment with
CC-BY. The Director's view is that:
>    * Despite concerns from some developers that it is not sufficiently
>      liberal, CC-BY satisfies the key requirement of permitting the
>      creation of derivative works.
>    * A license with no attribution requirement, such as CC0, would
>      not support other important W3C and community aims, as it could
>      contribute to confusion rather than interoperability of the Web
>      platform.



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